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    Remington P14 markings

    Hello everyone,

    I recently acquired a Remington p14 Enfield, the first of these rifles I've ever owned. The barrel/receiver, bolt, and wood are all mismatched, and most of the bluing is worn off the receiver, but the bore looks great, the wood is pretty and the price was right Anyways, I was hoping some of the experts here could help me piece together some of the story behind this rifle based on the markings, I'm particularly curious about the Canadianicon government acceptance stamp on the buttstock, the bird markings on the underside of the stock, (and any input on where/when the stock was made) and the two different serial numbers stamped on the barrel. The number on the right side matches the receiver, while the one on the underside does not. I assume the faint 16 stamped on the left side of the barrel is a date of manufacture. Thanks in advance for any input.
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    I think the stock belonged to an M1917.

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    The "Bird" is the acceptance mark for the US gov't in it's beginning. The mixed finish and the wood mismatched means almost certainly it's a put together restoration. The C broad arrow would normally mean it's been accepted into Canadian service but those stamps exist within civilian hands today and it could have been stamped anywhere along the line. Note how sharp and crisp it is on an obviously sanded stock? On the other hand, my past father-in-law was issued an M1917 during WW2 while posted in Fredericton NB. So that stock could have come from one of the M1917 rifles taken into inventory by WW2 Canadaicon...before being used for that restoration.
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    Thanks for the info, I suspected it was a restoration but again, the price was right so not too concerned about it. From some cursory googling it seems that m17 and p14 stocks are not necessarily interchangeable, the fit seems solid enough but are there any safety concerns there?

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    I'd say it should be fine, you could get a gunsmith to run a headspace gauge into it if you're nervous. Did you pick it up at last Calgary Easter gunshow?
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    Nope, bought it from a friend who in turn got it off the CGN equipment exchange a couple years ago. He says he's fired it a number of times without issue so I think it'll be ok, I guess I'll see how good the bedding job is once I get it out the range.

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    I think that the above answers are correct in that the stock came from a Model 1917 that was loaned to Canadaicon in WW II. Other than that it looks nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terdfergus View Post
    Hello everyone,

    I recently acquired a Remington p14 Enfield, the first of these rifles I've ever owned. The barrel/receiver, bolt, and wood are all mismatched, and most of the bluing is worn off the receiver, but the bore looks great, the wood is pretty and the price was right Anyways, I was hoping some of the experts here could help me piece together some of the story behind this rifle based on the markings, I'm particularly curious about the Canadianicon government acceptance stamp on the buttstock, the bird markings on the underside of the stock, (and any input on where/when the stock was made) and the two different serial numbers stamped on the barrel. The number on the right side matches the receiver, while the one on the underside does not. I assume the faint 16 stamped on the left side of the barrel is a date of manufacture. Thanks in advance for any input.
    Ive got a Remington M1917 with an unknown stock and Eddystone lower hand guard. Its in great shape, but the theme of my entore collection is "as issued". Id "kill" for your stock, figuratively speaking! ;-)

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    Haha, yeah, sometimes I get annoyed thinking about the fact that its a 1917 stock on a 1913 rifle, but then i pull it out of the safe to look at the beautiful wood and feel better . Besides, the theme of my collection seems to be restored sporters, I have 2 lee enfields and a ross that I've personally desporterized so I guess it fits with the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terdfergus View Post
    sometimes I get annoyed thinking about the fact that its a 1917 stock on a 1913 rifle
    Look on the bright side, at least you have one.
    Regards, Jim

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