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    Nice looking carbine, I hope someone can comment on one thing i noticed on original early carbines. I have carbine sn. 938 like this carbine 3446 i noticed the trigger group is below the line of the stock. My other Inland carbines are not like that. Curious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Myers View Post
    i noticed the trigger group is below the line of the stock
    I've noticed a number of Inland Hi-Wood stocks that have quite a bit of trigger housing overhang, In fact I own a couple and these don't seem to be from sanding after issue.
    I don't know if some stock workers got carried away on some or if they really have been sanded after issue.

    Seeing how they were made, I could understand how a few extra seconds on the big belt sanders could cause a problem.
    I've never read anything about a stock being rejected because of excess trigger hang.
    So I guess I have no answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hercules Powder View Post
    Hammer, That is an outstanding early Inland carbine and I know this because I am a pervious owner of it. I bought it 6 years ago on GunBroker and sold it 2 years later. If you can get a copy of the Carbine Club Newsletter #346 there is an extensive article on "Inland's First Serial Number Block" you will find your carbine is completely correct and I have no doubt all the parts are all original to each other.

    I thought more of it being a stay back than a bring back. It is in fantastic condition but not the characteristics of one that saw action, it's pretty but no battle scars. I took great pleasure owning it, hope you do too.

    To Charlies question regarding the Extractor Plunger, it is a Type 1 conical/cone w/long stem. The Extractor is a Type 1 as well.
    Thanks Hercules Powder!
    You know who I got this amazing early Carbine from then and that He’s a great American veteran! and a longtime Carbine enthusiast.

    I never really even considered it as being a “stay-back” :-)
    You’re correct in that it is so pristine that if it did get overseas I doubt it ever got into a foxhole or trench-line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    I've noticed a number of Inland Hi-Wood stocks that have quite a bit of trigger housing overhang, In fact I own a couple and these don't seem to be from sanding after issue.
    I don't know if some stock workers got carried away on some or if they really have been sanded after issue.

    Seeing how they were made, I could understand how a few extra seconds on the big belt sanders could cause a problem.
    I've never read anything about a stock being rejected because of excess trigger hang.
    So I guess I have no answer.

    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...SC073632-1.jpg
    I also noticed this as well and I appreciate your sharing that you’re early inland also has this slightly proud trigger housing. Interesting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    I also noticed this as well and I appreciate your sharing that you’re early inland also has this slightly proud trigger housing. Interesting!
    Not as early as yours, but I have at least one Inland that's similar regarding the TH. There's no sign of it being sanded or through a rebuild - only has the original markings. I did look at my S'G' that has a Robert Irwin stock and it has even more metal showing. - Bob

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    The same with my Robert Irwin made stock compared with the my Winchester.
    It would seem the amount of housing visible is normal, and probably due more to the stock manufacturer than resurfacing during a rebuild.

    I've seen it commented that Winchester's stocks have a heavier wrist. Compared with the Robert Irwins they certainly seem to be wider and more squared off in the forestock as well as around the recoil plate.

    Could it be that Overton was working from the same pattern or using the same process and machinery types as Irwin, while some other stock manufacturers were using Winchesters? Or are they all very distinct ?

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    Matt,
    Quick examples,
    Holes under the Butt plates should be enough to tell you they all had their own 'Style'.
    Noticed the Coke bottle profile on the front of Irwin made Saginaw stocks?
    RSG hand guards are the narrowest I've found.
    Ever read the book about stock making?
    https://www.amazon.com/M1-Carbine-Re.../dp/1931464006

    WRA Stocks: https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=46635&
    Look under a WRA hand guard, near the notch the last router cut (circle) is always on the outer edge- overlapping the inner circle:



    https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=49540

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    Charlie. Your "WRA Stock Traits" is terrific!
    I ordered A Revolution in Stock Making through ABE yesterday after reviewing the review at the CCC. Also found an original 1944 edition of the 23-7 for a reasonable price.

    Funny that I kindof wanted the WRA stock for nostagic reasons (my uncle's had a WRA GHD) but the Irwin grip fits my hand better. That got me curious about the other makers and of course as a person who does some woodworking, why they are different.

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    [QUOTE=Hercules Powder;508020]Hammer, That is an outstanding early Inland carbine and I know this because I am a pervious owner of it. I bought it 6 years ago on GunBroker and sold it 2 years later.

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