Question about No4 SKN action

[mmppres]

I had just received a large amount of theses a few years ago. At one time they were imported as sbr's. Now after I went thru ATF with action ring being cut an other major stress point being cut. They agreed with me that there is way to much involved to place back into actual firing order. Was suggested that a plug be welded into chamber. As the heat of a good weld will also damage the receiver ring.

[Brian Dick]

If you really want to know what to do with it other than replacing the barrel with a 16" one which was the path of least resistance for me at the time, contact BATF&E Firearms Technology Branch. They'll want you to send photographs or possibly even send it to Martinsburg, WV for evaluation. I imported a legit, cutaway Enfield No.2Mk.1 revolver a few years ago and it had to be shipped from my broker in Atlanta upon import from the UK directly to Martinsburg, WV so they could make a determination on it. They determined it was OK and forwarded it back to me for in processing but it still had to be run through the proper transfer process, exactly the same as a live firearm. That being said, a live, unaltered No.2Mk.1 revolver is NOT importable because it doesn't have a hammer block safety. I'm guessing that because the historical significance and fact that the cutaway was altered beyond shooting capability must have been the reason they approved it. A word of advice from experience. You can ask all the local BATF&E compliance inspectors you want and get a different answer from each and every one of them. The only folks to deal with on an issue like this should you so desire is Firearms Technology Branch.

[waw44]

I had just received a large amount of theses a few years ago. At one time they were imported as sbr's. Now after I went thru ATF with action ring being cut an other major stress point being cut. They agreed with me that there is way to much involved to place back into actual firing order. Was suggested that a plug be welded into chamber. As the heat of a good weld will also damage the receiver ring.

Interesting thread. Do you have your correspondence and the decision documented? Because if yes, this would apply to other demilled rifles that are not demilled per published ATF standard (weld cut through receiver removing material, etc, etc). You're basically saying that in this case ATF looked at the SKN action and said that, after a plug is welded into the barrel, the object is too far gone to be considered a firearm, even though it technically doesn't have a torch cut through the receiver.

[Brian Dick]

waw44 makes a great point. I'd like to see that letter too mmppres. BATF&E FTB will provide a letter after evaluation either way. In the case of big stuff like mortars, there's a much more detailed and complicated display method of deactivating other than cutting the tube up but it's apples and oranges compared to small arms. I imported a British 3" mortar for a rare mortar section 1943 Ford Canada Universal, (Bren), Carrier that I also imported for a client in 2016. Yes, both the mortar and the UC required a Form 6 import permit as implements of war before I could bring them in.

[Enfieldlock]

The problem with instructional models in UK is their purpose - to instruct. The Police do not accept the need for anyone to be instructed in the mechanisms of firearms.

[mmppres]

Yes for my purpose I have my correspondence. Like it has been stated each instance has to go thru the tech division. Mine were all brought in as whole pieces. Then they cut barrels off before selling to me or my knowledge.Which had me very upset. I ended up welding barrel stub back on an leaving a gap to show barrel empty as a cut out. Then plug welding chamber. this was then looked at by atf ,
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[mmppres]

here is first pic Attachment 121997
now second Attachment 121998