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    Odd Mosin Nagant Stock.

    I have a Mosin Nagant stock but not sure what model it may fit. It is an M91 type stock. It is 42" long and stamped on the bottom of the right side of the butt just above the buttplate is "STURGIS" in 3/8" high letters and below that is "1922" in 5/16" high letters. There is a "A14" located in the forward trigger guard inlet, what looks like a G26 just behind the recoil lug in the action inlet and a 9 on the wrist behind the trigger guard inlet. There are other marks on the stock that I can’t quite decipher. It has the early tack type barrel band retainers. By the marks left by the barrel bands it was a complete rifle at one time. It is in near excellent condition.
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    I don't know much about them, but I do know that stock is a pre-war version do to the screw-in sling slots. Definitely a nice piece!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singer B View Post
    but I do know that stock is a pre-war version do to the screw-in sling slots.
    That and the cleaning rod lug is also the early early type
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    The two stamps on the butt plate are Finnishicon Civil Guard acceptance proofs used on the M24, M28 and M28/30 so it's likely a Finnish stock. Looking at different CG rifle models your rifle appears to match the stock used on the M24RV carbine, a shortened version of the M24 rifle meant for cavalry use. M24RV's are extremely uncommon in the U.S. with only 3-4 reported. I've included a few pictures of one from Vic Thomas's site, Mosinnagant.net which is currently down but viewable using waybackmachine.com. Can't really help with the Sturgis stamp though, it could be some sort of property or inventory stamp from a museum or business that owned it previously here in the U.S.


    Here is Vic's write up concerning the M24RV
    NON STANDARD m/24 CARBINE

    There is a carbine version of the model 24 rifle that is not well known and is not listed in Finnish records as an officially accepted version. This carbine appears to be the civil guards answer to the army's adoption of the m/27 rv carbine in 1935. Some reports out of Finland while doing research for the article and in personal notes over the years indicate that approximately 600 rifles were taken into the Civil Guards workshops and shortened to provide a short carbine length weapon for troops who would require it such as communication or mounted troops and crew served weapons. These m/24 carbines are extremely scarce, more so than the rare army version m/27rv. The rifle is a standard production m/24 that has been shortened to the same approximate length of the m/27rv carbine. The barrel has been recrowned and turned to the same diameter as a m/28 rifle. The front sight was then replaced with a m/28 front sight assembly and blade and soldered in place. A new short rear handguard was fabricated from the standard m/24 handguard to complete the rifle. With so few made and even fewer making it to the US, these rare carbines are without a doubt the crown jewel in any Finnish rifle collection. Just a handful are reported and almost all of these coming in the importation of the Finnish rifles into the US in the late 1950's and even more so in the large importation of the 1980's and 90's. The author is aware of only 2 other rifles in private collections in the US and all three including the authors carbine were obtained as m/27's from Century International Arms in the late 1980's.
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    M24rv

    SSG_LORD; Thank you for the response. I hadn't thought about either the M24rv or the M27rv. You are right. The stock I have would most likely be for the M24rv. Now what do I do with it I have 2 M91 barreled actions so I could make a fake M24rv but that does not seem right. Too bad there aren't any M24rv barreled actions laying around. I guess I will keep as it is, at least, for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtroadrunner View Post
    SSG_LORD; Thank you for the response. I hadn't thought about either the M24rv or the M27rv. You are right. The stock I have would most likely be for the M24rv. Now what do I do with it I have 2 M91 barreled actions so I could make a fake M24rv but that does not seem right. Too bad there aren't any M24rv barreled actions laying around. I guess I will keep as it is, at least, for now.
    How did you come into possession of it? There aren't very many of these, so the stock was probably on a rifle when it entered the U.S. Makes you wonder what became of the barreled action.

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    I found it on eBay. There wasn't much on the description but I could see the stock was in near excellent condition so I bought it not sure what it fit. I'm a bit suspicious maybe someone bought it complete and not knowing what it was disassembled the carbine to make a sporter or whatever. I have two Finnishicon barreled actions one is a Tula dated 96 and the other is a Westinghouse. I also have a complete action by Izhevsk dated 1926. An M44 complete barrel in excellent condition and a M91/30 barrel and miscellaneous Nagant parts. I have an M38 fake that I put together from parts. The bayonet lug on an M44 barrel was tuned down to the M38 configuration. Also have a very nice M39. Wow! Nothing like writing a book!

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    The stock is certainly interesting and quite uncommon. Unfortunately it's probably only really valuable to someone that owns a M24RV with a damaged/Bubba'd stock. You might want to join Gunboards if your not already member and post it there for comment. If there is someone out there looking for that stock they'll likely be on Gunboards given how many Finn collectors hang out there.

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