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    M1917 Eddystone Assessment

    I have already “pulled the trigger” on this M1917 Eddystone — thought I would swing by and get your thoughts and see if there was something I missed.

    - Production: December 1917
    - Barrel: November 1917
    - Stock in good shape — cartouches appear to be correct
    - Parts I can see are branded Eddystone

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    Definitely, WWII rebuild with a heavily sanded stock, rebuilt mark. Eddystones in the time frame would have been blued not parkerized, the rifle was heavily sandblasted as well. It looks like a solid M1917 if the bore is nice.

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    I could almost smell the cosmolineicon from here. Another that should shoot great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fjruple View Post
    Definitely, WWII rebuild with a heavily sanded stock, rebuilt mark. Eddystones in the time frame would have been blued not parkerized, the rifle was heavily sandblasted as well. It looks like a solid M1917 if the bore is nice.
    Yeah, I read that most of the Eddystones were blued until they switched over to parkerizing towards the end of production (Fall of 2018?). To me the rifle looks blued for sure — however, I can’t tell if it was blasted and blued again (it needs to be stripped to be blued). The details in the metal work appear to be fine and sharp. I am personally not opposed to re-bluing vs. letting it rust away. The stock looks good to me, although I don’t have a trained eye for sanding (which part is rounded vs. sharp like it should be?) — again, the cartouches look intact.

    Like you I do have some suspicions it has had some conservation/restoration work done to it and have sent an email off to a few shops I know to see if they have seen it before.

    I understand the bore to be excellent — although I do have a bore scope to check when it arrives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P0H0 View Post
    I am personally not opposed to re-bluing
    Unless I'm missing something, the finish is fine., No need to do anything.
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    I was speaking in general — I agree the blueing on the Eddystone is fine.

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    End of production 2018?? LOL!! obviously a typo! Actually the Eddystone production ran until January 1919, Winchester until April 1919, Remington until December 1918. US Army Ordnance at the time was considering adopting the M1917 as a new rifle and they wanted to get as many rifles as possible before production contracts ended. The production equipment for Eddystone was owned by the US Government and was shipped to Rock Island for storage after production was terminated at Eddystone and the plant facilities returned to Baldwin Locomotive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fjruple View Post
    End of production 2018?? LOL!! obviously a typo! Actually the Eddystone production ran until January 1919, Winchester until April 1919, Remington until December 1919. US Army Ordnance at the time was considering adopting the M1917 as a new rifle and they wanted to get as many rifles as possible before production contracts ended. The production equipment for Eddystone was owned by the US Government and was shipped to Rock Island for storage after production was terminated at Eddystone and the plant facilities returned to Baldwin Locomotive.
    “…towards the end of production (fall of 2018?)” is the statement (fall season being mid-September to mid-December) — not the literal end — that came January 9th, 2019 for Eddystone.

    I’d love to see photos of the Baldwin/Eddystone production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P0H0 View Post
    “…towards the end of production (fall of 2018?)” is the statement (fall season being mid-September to mid-December) — not the literal end — that came January 9th, 2019 for Eddystone.

    I’d love to see photos of the Baldwin/Eddystone production.
    POHO-- I think you mean 1919 not 2019! There is actually a nice video of the M1917 production at Eddystone posted on You Tube. The video is erroneously posted as being of the Winchester plant which it is not.

    I have attached the only surviving building of the Eddystone Rifle plant. It was used as the Woodworking shop for stocks and handguards. After the building was turned back over to Baldwin Locomotive it was converted to a steam plant. The Cross shaped building in the background was the company headquarters for Baldwin. It looks more like a correctional facility then a headquarters.
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    Yes, indeed, my century brain is not functioning - 1918 corrected.

    Very cool, I will check out the video.

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