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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick the Librarianicon View Post
    "certified" Bataan M1903s
    Weren't they mostly destroyed by GIs right before the surrender?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman1510 View Post
    Weren't they mostly destroyed by GIs right before the surrender?
    Not all of them...there's a published photo taken in occupied Manila of a mother and child evading a Japaneseicon sentry with what is obviously an M1903 with fixed bayonet. And, some were "reissued" to a group of US POWs used as extras in a Japanese propaganda film around 1943.

    But yes, from accounts I've read, many of them were either piled up and burned, or thrown in the ocean. Some kept fighting in the hands of the guerilla forces, but after years of tropical conditions and homemade ammunition I wonder how salvageable they would have been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enbloc8 View Post
    And, some were "reissued" to a group of US POWs used as extras in a Japaneseicon propaganda film around 1943.
    I didn't know this. Is the footage still around and viewable?
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    It was a Japaneseicon propaganda movie showing the "independence" of the Philippines given by the Japanese in 1943. Quite a few POWs were used as the "bad guys" during the movie. They were given a new uniform to replace the rags they had and a couple of decent meals. They played their part and back to the POW camp they went.
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    They also made sure to sabotage their "issued" weapons in the brief time that they had them.

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    I had a buddy, now passed on, who was in heavy combat in Manila 1944-45. He told me he saw piles of Japaneseicon equipment and US equipment being sorted by US Ordnance folks. The Japanese stuff was destroyed and the US stuff was retained. He said all of it had been heavily used by Japanese troops and was in very poor shape. He said the Japanese had many M1903's and M1917 rifles that had been captured by US troops. He said anyone could pick up whatever they wanted and it was OK. He said the US stuff was in terrible shape. He did give me a US bayonet from that pile and I still have it. I have heard the US stuff was given to the Philippine Army to help start them off in 1946, don't know if that is true.

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