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    8x56R Hungarian vs. 8x56R Portuguese?

    Does anyone have info of the differences, if any, between 8x56R Hungarianicon vs. 8x56R Portuguese v. 8x56R MANNLICHER ammo in dimension or powder load and pressures? Ive got a fine Kropatschek that will accept 8x56R Portuguese, and Ive found brass for both the Portuguese 8x56 & 8x60, but I am curious of the 8x56R Hungarian & 8x56R MANNLICHER.
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    Wasn't the 8 x 56R Portuguese a smokeless rehash of the 8mm Guedes cartridge?

    The 8 x 56R "Hungarianicon@? As in the 8 x 56R Steyr? MUCH more lively loading than the Portuguese, Fired in the dinky Steyr straight-pull carbines, it made the 7.62 x 54R in a Mosin Nagant M38 carbine seem comparatively docile.

    In a similar vein are the two fat, rimmed, 8mm rounds for the Siamese Mausers.

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    The 8x56R and the updated 8x60R Portuguese fired in the Styer Model 1886 Kropatschek had to be of limited power as they were used in a rifle with no locking lugs only the bolt handle root as the safety measure.

    Compare that with the more modern 1895 Styer straight pull which although it was a rotating bolt head still had 2 forward locking lugs making it a much stronger action designed from the start for smokeless powder. That 8x56R Hungarianicon round kicks like a mule in the full size rifle the carbine is just ridiculous.

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    I didn't find any info about a 8x56R Portuguese... Only the 8x60R. On my usual sources.
    That is strange.
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    The only physical difference between the two Portuguese cartridges is the length of the neck. I have a 1000 rd box of blanks. Most are shorter.

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