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    Rifle Identification

    Hi All
    I am a new member and have been researching the forums here for some assistance with a rifle identification from some grainy pictures.

    The attached pictures is my Dad from WWII. He was with the Canadian Army, Light Anti-Aircraft division. He was in Canadaicon from July 41 until November 41 then was in the United Kingdomicon from November 41.

    My best guess (i am not a good historian) is the rifle in the pictures is a P14 with a sniper sight?? My guess is from the shape of the stock, grove on the front of the stock and how the bayonet is attached. I could be completely wrong too.

    I believe the Canadian army used the P14 for training in WWII

    If anyone is able to provide additional information would be greatly appreciated.
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    Possible a P14 or M1917...

    I've move this thread to that forum to get comments from the many experts there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superbob View Post
    I believe the Canadianicon army used the P14 for training in WWII
    Well as a matter of fact...my past father in law was issued an M1917 with bayonet to "Play soldier" as he put it in the field across from his billet on Sundays. This was in the agriculture grounds outside Fredericton NB...during WW2. He was a driver. M1917...
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    Most likely a US M1917 since there were about 100000 in use in Canadaicon and very few P14s.
    The arm shown appears to have the long grasping groove of the 17 and no long range sight screw.

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    I wonder if that is a PH5B rear sight with the cover? The covers are kind of rare today as they must have been relatively easy to loose. It's hard to tell but it may have the tunnel foresight as well.

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    It's most unlikely that service rifles, in war, would be fitted with the commercial match sight (which is less than robust). Never say never, with Enfields. But not likely.

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    It is either a P.14 or a M1917 rifle. The (what appears to be) long finger groove stock would suggest M1917, but shouldn't the M1917 in Canadianicon service have a red stripe at the front? If the finger groove is shorter, it might also be a P.14 Mk.II and therefore lacking the screw for the front volley sight plate.


    I do not see anything that suggests it being a sniper rifle, only that it appears to have a non original peep sight. It seems a part of his collar is covering the action what makes identification tough too.
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    I'd say that part of his collar is covering the rearsight guard, and it's a completely standard M1917.

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