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    Thank you Charlie, I can always count on your knowledge and expertise. My problem is I work 6 days a week in the oilfield( this week was 7). My milsurps collection is small, but growing, hopefully. I only occasionally scrape up the extra money to splurge on another gun. I need to get what I think I'm bidding on. The norwegian carbine could be very interesting in the future, but I'ts not what I'm looking for now. I don't believe the seller did this on purpose, but he didnt show the K.art mark. The carbine had an adjustable sight, the rear bevel was ground down and coated with something that was very close to the parkerizing, and the barrel could have been replaced to hide the import stamp and signs of a bayonet lug. I think someone really tried to make a not too expensive carbine into an expensive one. Thanks to all of you I was able to see the discrepancies. I love the research being done on that Saginaw serial number block, but I shipped it back to the seller while I was at my gunshop. I'm not good at saying things the right way(my wife reminds me of that regularly) So, please know I respect all of your opinions. That was just not the gun I thought it was.
    That was very well said! Charlie has been a tremendous help to myself also and his advice and support has helped to save many M1icon carbines.

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    Appreciate the kind words guys but there were many that helped me early on and continue to this day. We all have a invested interest in helping each other by staying informed.
    No matter what arms your in to we are only the current caretakers. Preserve the history of those who developed, made and carried these arms, while having a little fun as we go.

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    I was watching this Carbine's auction. You really have to look closely at the Auctions pictures. You'd see a RA rebuild mark on the right of the stock and a ghost AA (?) on the left. There were 37 bids from roughly 20~ bidders but no clear view of the K.ART stamp and it wasn't cheap. Seeing the grinding on the rear bevel was a clue it might be a K.ART and in one picture a hint of the marking but not clear enough to be positive. But if I had won and was expecting a pretty nice S.G. then seen the K.ART stamp, I would have returned this carbine also. I purchased a freshly listed Buy it now late RMC on GB at a pricey cost a few years back and returned it because it had the serial number stamped forward of the rear sight. I felt bad about it, but it wasn't pictured and the cost way too high. The seller was cool about it. I paid his restocking fee and covered the shipping costs both ways. He just missed it in the pictures and wasn't familiar enough with carbines and all the markings.
    Worked out better for him on his relist it sold for more with pics and description on the added SN#.

    To me a good deal is both a happy seller and buyer. A happy seller often offers you the next carbine via private sale. I even use the ole finders fee to guys that refer a carbine my way.

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    The guy refunded every penny, even the shipping. I was not expecting that.

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    Back on GB

    The guy relisted the Carbine exactly as he did when I first saw it. He didn't show the K.art stamp or mention it. I'm kinda disappointed about that, but oh well. I'm watching it and I'll see how it comes out.

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    Probably hoping for a buyer that is not a member of any forum haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by SRiverrat11 View Post
    He didn't show the K.art stamp
    He does show the K.art marking, it is in the pictures he has below his description.

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    You are correct.

    GB used to have all auction pics below the description....IIRC. I hardly ever scroll down there anymore because they're rarely there. Thanks and Semper Fi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W5USMC View Post
    He does show the K.art marking, it is in the pictures he has below his description.
    That marking is just inside the frame of the pic (#16). You'd really need to be looking for it.

    Anyways I see it sold yesterday 5-1-22 for more $$ than before, $2550.00.
    Won by a guy with No previous rating.
    've got the ended auction in my watch box.
    We'll see if it pops up again.
    A Hard Lesson= $2550.00, + $75 Ship + Tax + GB Fee to pay your tax.

    https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/930264135
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    Personally think that seller should have emphasized the K.art marking as a selling point in the description. I would love to add a K.art marked carbine to my collection, just maybe not for $2550.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W5USMC View Post
    just maybe not for $2550
    Exactly why the K art mark wasn't mentioned.

    Wayne,
    Me being part Norwegianicon, I'd like one also but intact with the rear bevel marking still there.
    But agree not @ $2500+
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