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    Agreed this rifle has Danishicon traits. But the mint condition, love that deep Winchester blue! Hard to imagine that as a Sirius sled patrol rifle.

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    I have a 12/18 manufactured US Model 1917 with an 11/18 dated barrel and a serial number that is slightly over 507,000 so an earlier post war build than yours.

    Based on info that I had gleaned from the Remington Society of America production went as follows,

    Eddystone continued production until the end of December 1918 post war.

    Remington continued production into February of 1919 and stopped at the end of the month.

    Winchester continued production until the end of April 1919 who along with Remington had been lead to believe that the Model 1917 would replace the 1903 as the main US rifle.

    That was indeed a falsehood and the reasons for it are lost to history. However it leaves us with the fact that Winchester has the highest post war serial number range of the 3 manufacturers. The large majority of these rifles were warehoused unissued until the mid 1920's. It was at that time the US government gave them away to friendly nations as diplomatic candy and sold them to the public through the NRA.

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    The milled slot to the receiver of this rifle is Norwegianicon. They used a different stripper clip adapter which made it necessary.


    Norway got their M1917 rifles from Canadaicon. They after some years passed their rifles on to Denmarkicon. So basically you have a US rifle that was given to Canada, handed over to Norway to end up in Denmark until it was surplused.

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    At $1200can, I thought the rifle went for a good price, although lets not forget that was the hammer price so add another 20% for auction fees, taxes, shipping etc.
    I'm beginning to second guess myself, maybe I should have upped the ante, the bolt was a factor but I suppose I could have found a nice clean un-numbered bolt somewhere.
    Oh well, it's in the past now. We all have ones that we allowed to slide thru our hands, this is not my first!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bros View Post
    At $1200can, I thought the rifle went for a good price, although lets not forget that was the hammer price so add another 20% for auction fees, taxes, shipping etc.
    I'm beginning to second guess myself, maybe I should have upped the ante, the bolt was a factor but I suppose I could have found a nice clean un-numbered bolt somewhere.
    Oh well, it's in the past now. We all have ones that we allowed to slide thru our hands, this is not my first!
    Don't feel bad however here's one the seller SHOULD feel bad about.
    At my range office a range employee is selling his "all matching all original" M1917. It's a blued Remington in a Winchester stock, grey parked bolt, unmarked bands and E marked handguard ring all for only $1600 US. As I pointed all this out to a formally friendly guy he suddenly went silent. For the life of me I don't know if he thought it was 100% but there's no way. He claims to have shot competition for decades and someone would have pointed this out to him years ago.

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