Indian Trainer

**Giove** · 10-06-2022 11:35 AM

Another Indian L.E. trainer . . . . . .

. . . . . with a two groove barrel.

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**Alan de Enfield** · 10-06-2022 11:53 AM

Interesting - I don't remember ever seeing a 2-groove .22rf barrel.

**browningautorifle** · 10-06-2022 01:24 PM

I like those full size rifles in .22, they shoot like a dream. Nice...

**Giove** · 10-06-2022 03:42 PM

Any idea about these trainers with two grooves barrel?

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**Brian Dick** · 10-07-2022 01:24 PM

Guessing that the two groove rimfire barrels are exclusive to the RFI No.2Mk.IV* trainers. I had a very nice one several years ago that now resides in a collection in Nebraska. I was also intrigued by the two groove barrel which I'd never seen before in a rimfire barrel.

**donki1967** · 10-08-2022 01:06 PM

On my 1967 Ishapore No.2Mk.IV*, the bore rifling is at least 5 grooves ,perhaps 8 but I don't rembember...

**donki1967** · 10-09-2022 04:37 AM

I went to the range this morning with my N°2 and I counted 8 grooves when I cleaned it.

**Steve H. in N.Y.** · 10-09-2022 08:27 AM

This one has a two-groove barrel and a ladder sight grafted on. Converted in 1962 at workshop number 502.

**Giove** · 10-10-2022 05:51 AM

Interesting.

So we have three (the third is this: https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=75200) Indian trainers with a two-groove barrels. All are post WW II.

Robert Edwards in his "India's Enfields" states: ". . . . it was not until WW II that any significant numbers were produced and not until the early 1950's that Ishapore began production of a purpose-built .22 caliber trainer." . . . . "For rifles converted during the period 1941-1951, markins are: "SHT 22" and "IV*" in two lines on the right buttsocket and "R.F.I." and date of conversion on the left buttsochet. For new production after 1951, the markin are: Ashoka, "R.F.I", date, "Rifle No. 2", "Mk 4*" in five lines . . . . Barrel are new production 5 groove made from No. 1 Mk 3* blanks.".

Something is wrong, seems to me.

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donki1967, Have you any pics of your trainer?

**donki1967** · 10-10-2022 07:01 AM

Hi
some pictures, if you need a particular view, let me know

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