Winchester M2 Carbine

[browningautorifle]

That's my suspicions anyways Ed, the military converted by armorer and would have over-stamped I think. The parts being original wouldn't surprise me because they used to be available. There used to be pails full around. An older civilian conversion could date back to the 60s...easily. That would show age patina. All this suggested without me being able to study it at all.

[EddieM]

Hey Jim,
Thank you for your reply, you´re right.
Regards
Eddie

[Bruce McAskill]

Winchester made only 17,500 overstamped M2 carbines. They also made 1108 T3 carbines. It seems not a lot of carbines in general were overstamped if converted to M2 carbines.

[jond41403]

Since this thread is about m2's, does anyone have a picture of the spacer that was supposed to have been used with a type 4 hammer if no disconnector was involved? I have read a lot of people used washers but I have read there was a spacer and just wonder if they actually manufactured it.thanks

[jond41403]

And did that spacer have its own part number for the carbine if it existed? I'm just curious if it would just be a round washer or if it would be shaped like the bottom half of a carbine hammer. I have tried researching this to no avail. Everything I have read mentions a spacer and I would just like to see one if there was a carbine specific spacer.

[W5USMC]

jond, I do not believe that there is an Ordnance Department "carbine specific" spacer, the type IV hammer was one of the M2 parts that were intended for use only in M2 carbines. I believe that any mention of a spacer that you have read about was likely done on the civilian side just to make that hammer work in M1 configuration.
The U.S. Caliber .30 Carbines - Model T4/M2

[jond41403]

Thanks wayne! That makes a lot of sense now

[jond41403]

I just reread that link you posted Wayne and it says that while the M2 hammer was designated for the M2 only, it was sometimes used in M1 carbines with a "Field expedient insert"to keep the hammer to the left where it would work in an M1. Does anyone have a picture of the field expedient insert?

[jond41403]

Or is field expedient insert just a fancy word for a washer haha? The way it reads seems like it was a kit of some sort

[USGI]

Yep, I'm sure Jim M's meaning there (in the field) would be to improvise with what you had available. I think (2) #6 washers is all it took on one that I did. I still have the exact ones I used - measured the thickness and was going to post that information back in October, but got busy with something else. - Bob