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    Good eyes Surpmil couple of Mills 36's.

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    FWIW these are pre-theatre troops very much 'on display'. Once in theatre it's highly likely the regulation rig goes out the window and you either learn from those before you - or adapt pretty quickly to what works. Suspect your second chances to get things right were few and far between!
    In one of the other images provided Pte Miller festoons a more likely ammunition rig, albeit his images are taken in a moody, staged setting.

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    ps Have tracked other images of the same where their Royal Highnesses are speaking with Maj Gen Gale, he was Commander 6th AB.

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    A search for "Princess Elizabeth and 6th Airborne Division" brings up quite a few photos taken on this occasion. Brig. Gen. James Hill is just visible behind the then Queen.

    What became of the canvas covered wheelbarrows in combat; did they prove effective or not? Solid tires?

    Good shooting BTW; freehand or off a rest?
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    Thank you. Shooting off a bag rest for the zero.
    Not seen the canvassed covered wheel-barrows but had to laugh at the solid tyres implication; assuming, like me, that you are forever dealing with flat ones on your own wheelbarrow (until I switched to solid...)!

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    From information we hold at the Airborne Forces Museum this was a photo taken on the 19th May 1944 of Snipers of the 6th Airborne Division at Bulford Camp on a Royal Visit.

    The photo of Captain Malindine wass one unconneccted as he waas a member of the Army Film & Photographic Unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    canvass covered wheel barrows
    Apart from the obvious carrying kit etc could they have doubled up as moving a incapacitated or wounded soldier by 1 person instead of two, that sorta reminds me of the old canvas seats we had at the out door theatre near my home when we went to watch movies (As a treat).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post
    From information we hold at the Airborne Forces Museum this was a photo taken on the 19th May 1944 of Snipers of the 6th Airborne Division at Bulford Camp on a Royal Visit.
    Gil,

    Any info on how the Para snipers dropped with their kit. I assume rifle went in the leg bag, and somewhere on their person in their jump rig they stashed the scope/bracket in its case (in either version). Just wondering where/how they stashed the scope can on them when jumping?
    I guess the air-landing snipers had a slightly easier job in that regard going in a glider if crashing in a Horsa could be considered an easy option...!!
    Just the thing for putting round holes in square heads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BazSmiles View Post
    Thank you. Shooting off a bag rest for the zero.
    Not seen the canvassed covered wheel-barrows but had to laugh at the solid tyres implication; assuming, like me, that you are forever dealing with flat ones on your own wheelbarrow (until I switched to solid...)!
    Oh yes! "Binned them and done that", as one might say.

    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    Apart from the obvious carrying kit etc could they have doubled up as moving a incapacitated or wounded soldier by 1 person instead of two, that sorta reminds me of the old canvas seats we had at the out door theatre near my home when we went to watch movies (As a treat).
    Exactly what I was thinking as I looked at that photo, though the problem is the casualty would either have to sit cross-legged or have his feet drag on the ground. Had the wheels been a little larger, and the handles extendable fore and aft, the occupant could have perhaps hung his legs over the aft pair, or a canvass sling to go between the handles could have been provided. Would also have allowed one/two to pull while one/two pushed or lifted as required.

    And depending on the terrain to be crossed, one man rather than two evacuating a non-ambulatory casualty can't be a bad thing.
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    Paratroopers jumped with their sniper rifle securely held within what was called a 'Valaise'. This was an internally quilted course external covering which allowed the rifle to be lowered on a 15 foot strop once their parachute had opened, so they were left unimpeded to roll on hitting the deck.
    Many left the scopes mounted, but a few carried them in the tins in their bags.
    I have to say, disconnecting and connecting the scope each time in the years when I held a 4T of my own, it was never the same shot when fitted back onto the rifle. Personal choice and left very much to the trained sniper.
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