I have an AK related illness....

[browningautorifle]

thougt to hold around 120 cartridges

That should warm 'er up a bit...test that chrome bore.

[imarangemaster]

Developed by the Soviets but never used and picked up by the North Koreans, is the helical magazine. Not a new design as it was invented during the black powder period and even used in modern times in a 9mm pistol type design.

This helicul is thougt to hold around 120 cartridges of the 5,45x39 cal, no need to carry the old AK magazine vest either!

I really would doubt many of these magazine got out of North Korea but sure would make a choice collectors itemAttachment 130396

remember the Calico pistol, carbine, and SMG 9mms. They have 50 and 100 round helli cal drum mags. VERY heavy. Can you imagine 120 of AK ammo in a mag? Like strapping three 40 round RPK mags to your AK.

[browningautorifle]

VERY heavy

Yes, and from what I understood the helical mags only worked partially, not that well?

[mrclark303]

Developed by the Soviets but never used and picked up by the North Koreans, is the helical magazine. Not a new design as it was invented during the black powder period and even used in modern times in a 9mm pistol type design.

This helicul is thougt to hold around 120 cartridges of the 5,45x39 cal, no need to carry the old AK magazine vest either!

I really would doubt many of these magazine got out of North Korea but sure would make a choice collectors itemAttachment 130396

That's a new one on me and I cant think of a good reason for it either!

Do they do a 10 round restricted version of it for California

[browningautorifle]

Do they do a 10 round restricted version

Like ours where a Thompson drum would be 5 rd...

[Bartok5]

Here's my all-original Russian 1977 Izhevsk AKMS. Story goes that it was an Israeli capture desitined for the PLO, sold off as surplus to SIDEM in the UK, who converted it to semi-auto-only and then sold to Canadian Dealer Peter Wilke of Ontario Gun and Tackle in the early 1980s.

[browningautorifle]

I remember Wilke. He sure did lots of business. I had an L2A3 Sterling from him...

[Bartok5]

I remember Wilke. He sure did lots of business....

Yes, yes he did. Including these four pieces. The C1 SMG was originally part of a Canadian military assistance sale to the Congo back in the late 1960s and wound up in SIDEM's "armoury" for conversion to semi-auto only. The same applied to my Belgian FN-manufactured Uzi, which came directly out of Wilke's personal collection round about 1998. The "Suppressed" Sterling was a joint Wilke/Sterling creation purely for the Canadian market. The Suppressor Housing and the rods which secure the end-cap are all present, but the barrel extends the full length of the suppressor casing and there are (obviously) no internals (Spiral Diffuser, etc). There were 13 of those Suppressed Sterling MK9s manufactured for the Canadian market. One ended up in the Pattern Room and the other 12 came to Canada. Mine is marked both "Sterling England" and "OGT Canada" on the Right side of the Trigger Housing. Last but not least is one of the centrepieces of my Cold War collection - an all-original Artillerie Inrichtingen AR10 License-manufactured under Armalite, a division of the Fairchild Aircraft Company. Of the less than 10000 ever produced, this is the final refined version known as the "Portuguese Variant". It features a Grenade-launching Barrel-sleeve, a 3-position Gas Regulator, and a Retractable/collapsing Charging Handle.


Canadian 1959 C1 Submachinegun (C1 SMG) 9mm





Belgian-Manufactured, Congo-Contract Fabrique Nationale (FN) Uzi Submachinegun 9mm





British Sterling Mk 9 Semi-Auto, Faux-Suppressed Carbine 9mm





Dutch Artillerie Inrichtingen-manufactured, Portuguese Contract Armalite AR10 Rifle

[browningautorifle]

That AR 10 is cherry. I had one in hand not long ago, was one of the Sudanese models. I also owned an Uzi years back but aside from the Submachine guns C 1 we used in the army never owned one.

[Bartok5]

Thanks for the kind words, Jim. That AR10 is a real shooter as well. If memory serves, my groups used to hover right around 1 MOA with match ammo back in 2005 when we were still trusted to safely discharge such a rifle by our government. The design is just inherently accurate. My Colt USA LE-901 (Colt's monolithic .308), which is the direct basis of the new Canadian C20 Sniper Rifle, consistently shoots sub-MOA out past 800m on my local range. Or I should say it USED to shoot sub-MOA. Nowadays it just collects dust in the safe, thanks to a goverment that doesn't trust its citizens.