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    Quote Originally Posted by RASelkirk View Post
    I didn't even know this type of chamber existed. What would be the purpose?
    These have been around as long as we have...Not new. They aid in extraction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cal50 View Post
    I have broached a lot of things but doing a 30-06 chamber flutes would be a tough one. I don't see any room to press a long broaching to get the depth or room for chips.

    Hammer forging is not likely since the mandrel has to rotate with the rifling to remove and no way with straight flutes in the chamber.
    How do you think the flutes were produced then if they weren't broached or forged?

    If the stub that you cast is dated 1959 I guess that it would be in the era of "spark erosion technology" but I don't know how good the process would be in this application, i.e. a gun chamber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cal50 View Post
    I don't see any room to press a long broaching to get the depth or room for chips.
    That is why I wondered if they broached the flutes individually but as you suggest it is deep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    These have been around as long as we have...Not new. They aid in extraction.
    Usually in firearms with violent extraction cycle, to prevent cases sticking in the chamber or rim torn off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daan Kemp View Post
    in firearms with violent extraction cycle
    Yes. Interestingly...there was a discussion over in the M14icon forum about them being the very thing that tears off a base. I don't agree though. Like you say, to prevent sticking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    How do you think the flutes were produced then if they weren't broached or forged?

    If the stub that you cast is dated 1959 I guess that it would be in the era of "spark erosion technology" but I don't know how good the process would be in this application, i.e. a gun chamber.

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    That is why I wondered if they broached the flutes individually but as you suggest it is deep.


    The sharp edges appear to be cut , like broaching but the end angles into the chamber would be almost impossibly cut at the sharp angle.

    If I had a spare barrel to keep I would prefer to section it and have a closer look.
    It might be an insert not visible externally.

    Some M60 barrels used a hardened insert for wear.
    Maybe its something similar , I have no idea.





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    When I saw that fluted chamber I couldn't help thinking of all the unburned propelland and carbon that would end up in there. Just remember all that diamond hard crusted-on carbon fouling that you used to spend hours cleaning off of the gas parts while sat on the ranges. That same crap will be encrusting the fluted chamber. Just my view of course because it's got to go somewhere and gas ALWAYS takes the line of least resistance

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    The Sovieticon SVT 40 used a fluted chamber (do not believe full length but still fluted) not all used the fluted chamber but a large number did use it.

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