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    What so special about this "RARE German Kriegsmarine Steyr bnz"

    I've been watching this auction and for the life of me can't understand how this Germanicon Kriegsmarine Steyr BNZ can be worth more then $3500,00! I mean the rifle is absolutely beautiful but wow.. binding that much over the internet without seeing it in person, hmmm.

    https://www.proxibid.com/Guns-Milita...ation/74829066

    The listing reads;"Rare WWII veteran bring-back 1941-dated German Kriegsmarine issued BNZ (Steyr Daimler Puch) Mauser Model 98k 8mm Bolt-Action Rifle in very good + condition. All matching numbers (Including the cleaning rod!), non-import with the "M" marked stock and nice leather sling, sight hood and cleaning rod. The bore is good to very good but could use light cleaning. The Action appears to work properly."
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    Don't know, but the auction house is an hour drive from me. I picked up a gorgeous Ishapore 2A1 from them at the store.

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    It ends in two days, and it says this at the bottom of the page: This item is part of April Fools Day Firearms & Militaria Auction!
    Saturday, Apr 1, 2023 | 12:00 PM Eastern

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    The rifle is a Radom made rifle , not even Steyr . The stock stampings look fake , the M and W 623 is Steyr and should be W 77 for Radom . The sling looks to be a repro .

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    Years ago I always attended the Pikesville Gunshow in Maryland. I got to know a dealer who specialized in rare Germanicon WW2 toys. Just piles on Nazi-Party marked Kar98a's and very early Party marked K98K's. All rare stuff, so I asked where it was coming from. He told me he had a gunsmith with European die sets and he would mark the guns as needed. I almost fell over! German stuff is easy to fake and sells at a premium. Buyer beware!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calif-Steve View Post
    He told me he had a gunsmith with European die sets and he would mark the guns as needed.
    And now it's all out there for newer collectors. Another good reason I quit collecting that era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob q View Post
    The rifle is a Radom made rifle , not even Steyr . The stock stampings look fake , the M and W 623 is Steyr and should be W 77 for Radom .
    They never assembled rifles at Radom, its a Steyr assembled rifle using a Radom supplied receiver, which was common for Steyr production, who used a lot of Radom supplied components (Radom never made barrels, hence never assembled complete K98kicon's)
    All marking seem consistent with a known matching g block bnz 41.

    Steyr had a large contract with the Navy in 1941, so not uncommon, but if its a true matching rifle, the price of it now at $5k is about right these days.
    Stock markings do look 'crisp' but don't look 'fake wrong' if that makes sense....
    Just the thing for putting round holes in square heads.

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    Sold for $5,050.00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Womack View Post
    Sold for $5,050.00.
    Some one is happy i'm sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeeRam View Post
    They never assembled rifles at Radom, its a Steyr assembled rifle using a Radom supplied receiver, which was common for Steyr production, who used a lot of Radom supplied components (Radom never made barrels, hence never assembled complete K98kicon's)
    All marking seem consistent with a known matching g block bnz 41.

    Steyr had a large contract with the Navy in 1941, so not uncommon, but if its a true matching rifle, the price of it now at $5k is about right these days.
    Stock markings do look 'crisp' but don't look 'fake wrong' if that makes sense....
    Old bad info . The books from 20 / 30 years ago are out dated now .

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