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    Long Branch "pounding In Bracket"

    a bracket recently sold at Joe Salters and it has been modified into what the SAL drawing described as a "pounding in bracket" for scopes.

    I have seen the Long Branch SAL drawing for this bracket. This was not "experimental, it was used in production of the scopes. They used it to seat internal components within the No32 scopes.






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    The primary mod looks to be just to make it easier to open & refasten the cradle clamps quickly; a 'quick release' if you like.......If I have it correctly they now hinge on the far side & lock up with the wing nut on the near side. Is there anything else that I've missed? If one had a lot of scopes to test I can understand why unscrewing eight cradle screws & then doing them up again over & over again would soon pall.

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    Totally agree with Roger.
    Having to put scopes into mounts is a tiring job with the 8 tapered screws that if just a small bit of a turn tight end up being a bit*h to loosen.
    Nice find for the person who wants to test several scopes on a mount.

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    Interestingly the closest previous number I had for 50L was 80, and BDLicon posted seeing 50L0074

    I wonder if the 50L0084 rifle was used as a slave to the bracket.
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    50L0084 is the bracket number. Mine is 50L0026. The L-42 LB is 50L0027. Wonder what happened to that rifle? That's a neat find. Joe gets some interesting stuff. I got a few items off him; a aiming stand in particular.

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    A bit of an update, I'm told that this item should have the drawing number on it - and the drawing is related to the No32MkI scope.
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    Presumably used to test the scopes received from R.E.L. before fitting them to rifles, in which case a slave rifle in a rest would make sense.
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    Good Day All,
    I've been looking at this assembly with something gnawing at me. Why are the two screws on the side of the bracket hexagonal, or Allen, screws if this was an early design? Could this help date it?

    The adoption of the internal hex wrenching drive was slow initially, as wartime demands increased, Allen head screws became more prevalent. As an earlier manufactured item, I would have expected either a slotted or square drive socket screw (a Canadianicon concept).

    I posit this is a late design, post 43-44? Thoughts?

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    It's a valid point and a similar thought did pass through momentarily when seeing those photos, but discounted it, rightly or wrongly.

    So from a little reading online it seems WWII was the great arrival of the Allen screw - not what you might expect, but I wonder if more conventional screws were actually harder to obtain at that time?

    Notice that the wing-nut is one welded up from a nut and a couple of "wings" cut out of perhaps a large washer?
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    I'll 'third' those observations. Of course, there could have been originals that simply became lost.......

    Yes, the mods are quite crude, though I daresay functional. Not what one usually expects from LB/REL.

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