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    SMLE Stock Disc Markings



    I’m looking for help in deciphering the stock disc on my EFD built No1 Mk3*.
    One suggestion was the Royal Montreal Regiment, but that doesn’t account for the “B.”
    I assume the 10 29 is the date of issue.
    What is the significance of the “E” at the top and the “2” at the bottom.
    Any and all help is greatly appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderstreak View Post
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    One suggestion was the Royal Montreal Regiment, but that doesn’t account for the “B.”
    My take on this is, Royal Montreal Regiment, B Company.
    Mick

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    Rocky Mountain Rangers would be another guess.
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    172nd Battalion (Rocky Mountain Rangers), CEF... Not RMR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    172nd Battalion (Rocky Mountain Rangers), CEF... Not RMR.
    SMLE's were not on issue in Canadaicon before WWI.

    That level of detail, whatever it may refer to, is never seen on WWI CEF marking discs IME.

    Therefore it is almost certainly a post-WWI militia battalion issue.

    It may well be Royal Montreal Regiment, but I see no proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    SMLE's were not on issue in Canadaicon before WWI
    True.
    Regards, Jim

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    The Abbreviation for Rocky Mountain Rangers is R.M.R.S. I just scoured "The Broad Arrow" and R.M.R. according to the book is the Royal Montreal Regiment but, and this is a big BUT the Royal Montreal Regiment did not come into being until April 1, 1920. Prior to that it was named the 58th Westmount Rifles and was raised on Nov. 2nd, 1914. The chance that a No.1 MkIII* still had its butt disc is slim although there is the slight possibility, albeit slim that when the 58th Westmount Rifles changed to the RMR they might have installed a new butt disc....but then you have to ask who was issuing SMLE's to Canadianicon Regiments in 1929?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapper740 View Post
    Royal Montreal Regiment did not come into being until April 1, 1920.
    Fact is most didn't have a name until then or even later (1922) when the directive came out to drop the number system of the CEF and adopt a name. Even then it was a dragged out process.
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    In the Broad Arrow MkII if it was sent to Canadaicon which is borne out of the Broad Arrow within the C then the "E" denotes a Canadian ordnance depot at Esquimalt.
    The RMR is correct as its in the Broad Arrow MKI & II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    In the Broad Arrow MkII if it was sent to Canadaicon which is borne out of the Broad Arrow within the C then the "E" denotes a Canadian ordnance depot at Esquimalt.
    The RMR is correct as its in the Broad Arrow MKI & II.
    I'm not convinced that E stamped on the butt disc, lacking further stamps such as N or CN (Canadian Navy) is proof of this rifle finding it's way to an ordnance depot at CFB Esquimalt. It's a long way from Montreal QC to Victoria, B.C. Do you have any citations for your assertion?

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