My California Compliant retro ARs

1967 vintage XM16E1

-Upper is a large front hole CH forge 603 upper from an early AR15 Sporter II rifle that was parted out. Offset bushing installed

-Bolt Carrier Group is Nickel Boron M16 BCG (too cheap to buy chrome)

-Lower is a 1989/90 vintage tool room prototype XM177/GAU-5 lower from a USAF commemorative project I had when I had a
manufacturer's license. Serial "Proto 1". The CA Roberti Roos Assault Weapon bill killed the project before it started production.

-2000 vintage Colt [S] Lower parts kit with Juggernaught "hellfighter" kit for Commiefornia compliance

-Barrel is a H&R (PSA) 20" chrome lined M16A1 "pencil" barrel and slip ring. (I got 1/7" twist to shoot my MK262 MOD1 77 grainer 5.56

-Flash hider is original M16 Bird Cage

-stock and handguards are original XM16E1 set with Type D stock, no trap door, of course, and an original "fat" mottled pistol grip

-Colt 20 round magazine (blocked to 10 for Commifornia compliance

-Original "seatbelt" sling.

-Original Vietnam era M7 Bayonet and M8A1 sheath

-Original "comic book" manual (1967 edition) in original plastic sleeve

-7 pocket bandoleer of M193 55 grain ball ammo

-Reprint 1966 XM16E1 FM23-9 manual

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1990 Vintage USAF GAU-5/P

-Upper, Fulton slab side 602;604 no forward Assist

-Barrel h&R (PSA) 14.7" chrome lined with pinned brake and Colt 6420 handguards

-Colt M16A1 BCG

-Lower Colt CR6920 "Carbine lower w/ 4 position tube, Fiberite CAR-15 stock, H buffer

-Resurgent arms "non-pistol grip"

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Always liked the original version of carbine. Our C8 started like that with a 14.5" length 1 in 7" twist barrel and was perfect. Then they had to mess with it, now it weighs the same as the rifles did. About the same length too...

I did up a few of the large hole uppers by machining a tight plug for the front hinge pin and using sleeve locker and a tight fit to bond. Then using the lower for a guide would drill for the hinge pin so it fit tight. We couldn't get some things here and had to make do a few times.

JIm, I so agree. The American Colt models 653, 654, & 720, and the Canadian R725 (C8) were perfect carbines. Mine weighs 5.75 pounds empty. The M4s of today weigh 8 pounds, or more with all the cr*p they hang on them. For that weight, I'd rather have a FAL or G3.

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Originally Posted by imarangemaster

I'd rather have a FAL or G3.

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One of the infantry model FAL with the really low sights and swept back pistol grip would be fine...

I agree. I had an Argentine FAL kit (only dropped once in the Falklands) on an Imbel lower. Awesome rifle.

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Originally Posted by imarangemaster

an Argentine FAL kit

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I would have LOVED one. I stood in my company office and watched that whole thing go down, begging them to send a couple reps per platoon...nope...

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My California Compliant retro ARs

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It may seem like a bit of a dumb question but why does your 1990 AR have to have the "non pistol grip" but the 1967 model doesn't to be California Compliant?

Its a "Commiefornia" thing. The retro XM16E1 has a System that makes it a fixed/attached 10 round magazine, so it can have evil features. The GAU-5 has a pinned stock, nuzzle brake instead of flash hider, and non-pistol grip. It is "featureless" having no evil features, so it can use detachable, legally possessed high capacity mags.