They shot Trump

New information. Not sure how relevant it is, in my opinion, the Secret Service still bears sole responsibility for the attempted assassination.

The ranking PA State Police representative testified today that there was a walkthrough at the site which included the building where the shooter climbed on the roof. The Secret Service assigned the Butler County ESU the responsibility for the building. Just prior to the assassination attempt, the two Butler County officers in the room overlooking the roof left to search for the shooter who had just been seen and reported to them. The range finder information was relayed to the centra command post where the PA State Police immediately reported it to the Secret Service. Pause for individual commentary: THIS IS WHERE THE SECRET SERVICE TELLS TRUMP TO NOT GO ON STAGE. OK, then. Moving on, two local officers told about the shooter on the roof attempted to see him, one climbing on the others shoulders and then falling as he was confronted by Crooks. Crooks then turned and fired EIGHT TIMES.

We now have Congressmen suggesting the unthinkable with this after the testimony of the Secret Service head. At least two have publicly come forward and suggested that even though they don't want to create a conspiracy theory, they can't rule it out due to the bizarre nature of this event.

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Originally Posted by jond41403

then a sniper team could have stood there with rifles.

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The sniper teams were not on that roof they were on 2 different roofs.

People can and sometimes do fall through roofs if inadequate safety precautions are not taken.

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Originally Posted by Flying10uk

The sniper teams were not on that roof they were on 2 different roofs.

People can and sometimes do fall through roofs if inadequate safety precautions are not taken.

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What thread have you been reading? When did I say snipers were on that roof? Everybody has known the whole time the counter snipers were on two different roofs haha!The whole argument is the director never put snipers on that roof. And you defended basically the secret service directors assessment that it was dangerous by saying there could be underlying causes of safety measure issues that we don't know of or in the public domain. All those people on that small patch of roof near the shooter proves that there was no underlying safety precautions that you seem to think existed. You are the only one that thinks that by the way.the counter snipers were on two different roofs , Yes they sure were, the secret service counter snipers right behind Trump stage left and stage right on two different barn roofs. keep grasping at straws my man haha. Sometimes it can be wonderfully funny when some people can't stand to be even a little bit wrong haha. They start bickering like a lawyer , grasping at any straw that can keep their argument afloat haha

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Originally Posted by Flying10uk

The sniper teams were not on that roof they were on 2 different roofs.

People can and sometimes do fall through roofs if inadequate safety precautions are not taken.

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It's obvious you are trolling. I will be wasting no more time on you. I don't know if you're a Trump hater that just wants to fill a thread about his assassination attempt full of gibberish or what, But it's not going to go any further with me. You can play your trolling BS with someone else on here that would be willing to play along with you

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Originally Posted by Flying10uk

People can and sometimes do fall through roofs if inadequate safety precautions are not taken.

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"Bodycam video from local law enforcement"
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6359018649112
All those people standing on the exact same roof. Certainly looks like very inadequate safety precautions. Someone must have edited out all the parts where they each fell through one by one.

I don't have a dog in this fight but the videos, counter videos, facts, counter facts, rumours, counter rumours, photos, experts and not-so experts, drawings, graphs, photos, eyewitness reports, press releasess, media reports and 'truths', investiigations, allegations, etc, etc make for endlessly fascinating reading and viewing. I'm just wondering and speculating about the probably indefinite report with inconclusive findings that will, probably, eventually, possibly lay this incident to rest. Or not.:dunno:

Let's settle the roof safety issue. It's a steel roof, it has at a minimum, 2x4 stringers underneath it on truss rafters. It is designed for snow load. NO ONE is going to fall through it. There is ZERO safety issues with a steel roof. Watching these guys walking around on it, I can tell it's built substantially better than the average pole building as the spacing on the stringers is close enough that they are not watching to walk on them specifically.

As a remodeling contractor who has built, repaired and replaced many roofs in my 40 year career, the chances of falling through a roof are near ZERO. It simply does not happen except in the movies. In all that time, I have gone through a roof with my foot one time, because it was a shingle roof that was in very bad shape, I was inspecting it knowing it was bad and very cautiously making my way around it. The shingles were intact over pulverized rotted plywood.

Back to the snipers on that roof. According to some sources, there was supposed to be a either a sniper or an observer on that roof watching which is why the sniper teams hesitated on shooting the assassin. That individual or individuals left the roof because it was "too hot"

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Originally Posted by Aragorn243

Back to the snipers on that roof. According to some sources, there was supposed to be a either a sniper or an observer on that roof watching which is why the sniper teams hesitated on shooting the assassin. That individual or individuals left the roof because it was "too hot"

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Some of my questions have been answered. It seems the one story building (assassin's position) and the two story building attached by a breezeway are being considered as one building. Sounds as if both were occupied/covered two local LEOs looking out the windows of the two story wing. They probably should not have abandoned that post but it does seem they were being pro active. Sounds like a manpower issue outside the fence and poor /slow communications.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...758f558b-1.jpg

My understanding from the take away when the members of congress visited the grounds is the 2 story with the upper windows is just to the left of where GUNMAN is marked. 2 local LEO's were stationed at 2 upper windows but were called out to look for Crooks early on when a 'Suspicious Person Search' was being carried out.

Also noted by the members is that no one was assigned to the water tower.

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Originally Posted by Aragorn243

Just prior to the assassination attempt, the two Butler County officers in the room overlooking the roof left to search for the shooter who had just been seen and reported to them.

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The Room,
Must have been the building to the left of GUNMAN in the picture. Being in the upper windows. A member of the congress group showed a view from each window, from which the area between the buildings could easily be seen and had a full view of the roof Crooks shot from.