An interesting 'naughty' Irish Trainer, Rifle No. 2 MKIV

NZ also made up some for training on No1mk3s.

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Originally Posted by newcastle

Are there pictures of two different rifles here? One appears to have the wood chopped, the first pictures (1 and 3) the wood appears intact on the left side of the rifle. Also, to me, and from the single picture, the crudely attached plate that required the safety to be bent looks like a home made rear aperture sight.

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Yes, they are two different rifle

The first, the one with the side scope mount is the subject of this post, the second the one with the aperture sight and the cut wood is just to show the strangeness of the aperture sight adopted by the Irish paramilitary forces. It's not "homemade", it appears to be very limited production by Parker-Hale.... I'd like to find one but they are rarer than chicken teeth
This image is the only one found on the net...
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Originally Posted by tappo

Yes, they are two different rifle

The first, the one with the side scope mount is the subject of this post, the second the one with the aperture sight and the cut wood is just to show the strangeness of the aperture sight adopted by the Irish paramilitary forces. It's not "homemade", it appears to be very limited production by Parker-Hale.... I'd like to find one but they are rarer than chicken teeth
This image is the only one found on the net...
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How old are you thinking this one is that you found on the net?

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Originally Posted by Flying10uk

How old are you thinking this one is that you found on the net?

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I have no idea but I think it has been around for more than twenty years.
The image is taken from here: (PPT) Lee Enfield rifle sights - DOKUMEN.TIPS

Lance Lysiuk suggests cadet rather than Irish origins. I own one in Canada and so does my shooting buddy. I have seen one or 2 others at gunshows here over the years.

None of these have any markings on the sights, or any indication on the rifle (for example stock discs) that they are of Irish origin. So still a mystery....

Thinking on this further...did Parker Hale originally produce a reasonably refined and marked version that was then copied in some armoury or workshop rather more crudely and without markings?

Or was the cruder unmarked version a prototype which Parker Hale then copied to produce a more refined version? Aren't there a couple of former Parker Hale employees in the UK who might be able to shed some light?

Mine came from New Zealand:
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The sights have no markings that I can find

I take an additional photo.

Is this also in 22 with a "parkerifled" barrel?
Can you take the measurements of the view or maybe make a drawing with dimensions? I can't find it original, I'd like to be able to reproduce it..

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Originally Posted by Melanie_Daniels

Mine came from New Zealand:
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Is this also in 22 with a "parkerifled" barrel?
Can you take the measurements of the view or maybe make a drawing with dimensions? I can't find it original, I'd like to be able to reproduce it..