Milsurp Target Competition and Shoot (2011)
Milsurp Target Competition and Shoot (2011)
A world wide Milsurp Target competition/shoot, open to all Milsurps members, its not so much a competition but to see how each Milsurp rifle shoot.
There are many competitions we can't get to or would like to take part in but are sometimes the wrong date, place, time, also the categories may be not for our choice of milsurp, example being a WW1 Milsurp comp, its ok if you have a dated rifle but for someone who may be out that date range then it becomes a bit of a pain.
As most members on this site are interested or have a Milsurp rifle to hand, being the serious collector or the novice or the first time owner of a Milsurp, (we have all been there at one point) I thought it would be good to have a quarterly shoot/comp throughout the year.
It’s a basic comp with minimum rules and it's based on KISS, ( keep it simple stupid)
Any Milsurp Rifle as issued or in line with the categories listed, common sense will tell you what one.
Any desired position prone, bench, (standing if it really floats your boat !)
Sling, or rest of any description, but as it’s a milsurp NO bipod unless it was issued with it.
The Distance is a 100 mtrs/ 100 yrds, as I would think most can get to a 100 mtr range, whatever corner of the world you are in.
The ammo is up to the individual, home made. Factory, jacketed, cast etc, its your rifle you decide.
Categories
1. Any action Milsurp as issued, with original iron sights. (as issued I mean as the rifle would have been, some of us may of changed wood or a barrel etc, but these must be original items, but the bedding of barrels is also allowed)
2. Same as above, but any iron sights.
3. Same as 1, but with scope, any scope permitted.
4. Open to any converted milsurp, either in Calibre, barrel, any sight, iron or scope and bipod, and this is also for any action, Martini etc…, Semi auto (if your luky enough to have these in your part of the world) or any Milsurp variant.
5. Any Black powder (Milsurp) this includes any issued or volunteer rifle.
6. Any Military trainer
The target will be the PL7 or ISSF target cropped to fit on A4 paper which will enable us all to download and print it at home, or you may produce it to the dimensions as shown and you can put this on a backing target also as to increase the overall size etc for an aiming point. you can have 2ft x 2ft, target if you wish but the centre must be marked with the dimensions below.
Any colour disc or marker would be allowed, again its up to the shooter, If you want to make the target into a tin hat, colour it yellow, red etc, its up to you, as long as the dimenssions are standard.
Additional aiming points may be used, to compensate the milsurp rifles that have the rear sight starting at 200, 300. mtrs/yrds etc.
How you manage to get 5 rounds on the target at a 100 mtrs/yrds away is up to you.
The size is as follows:
V bull = 25mm
10 ring = 50mm
9 ring = 100mm
8 ring = 150mm
7 ring = 200mm
6 ring = 250mm
5 ring = 300mm
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For those of you who want the full size target in PDF format ...
(Click HERE to download target in PDF fie format)
Post a pic of the card on the thread for scoring.
5 shots per card,
2 cards a year for each catagory,
The results will be posted at the end of the year again its up to you, when you want to shoot but would be nice to be able to have most results or cards in by a set time, of course this being a world wide comp if someone is snowed in or someone cant get out because the tarmac has melted then it’s a viable excuse, a runny nose or bad throat don’t count.
If you are having a good day and want to shoot all cards in one day then no probs, if you want to take part in all six then no worries, all in all common sense and honesty are the two main factors, and of course its meant to be fun, its not about being better than the next man, its what you can do with your Milsurp rifle.
For anyone with a disability and feel they are up to it, but are unsure, then please contact me.
The initial idea was to allow us ( forum Members) from all walks of life to shoot in our own time, way, position with our favourite rifles and show what can be done with an old Milsurp, plus its free and no pressure.
If you looking for gold medals, being carried round in a chair, having free drinks, expect respect and want a book written about you then, I,m sorry to say but this is NOT for you.
If you have an old Enfield, Mauser, Nagant, Springfield, Ross, Schmidt, etc…… and can hit a barn door, the size of a an A4 bit of paper at 100 mtrs then have a go.
NOTE : As we are nearly through the first half of the year only two cards will be required from now until December, next year it will run from Jan- Dec and will be four cards for each catagory.
2011 results
Member.................... score........v (x) bull.........total...........rifle.
Sarge1998.................38/48...............................86......... .3006 Smith corona M1903 A3 (2 cards posted)
Pyno & dyno.................49...............X........... .....49.1........ .30-06 M1917
Entry Level...................49...............X........ ........49.1........ .303 No4 Mk1 (T) scopeless
gunner.........................47.............XXX. .............47.3........ .303 No4 Mk1* (1942 savage)
Frank LE.......................46....................... ..........46.......... .303 No5 Mk1 (1946)
mausernut....................45...............X... .............45.1....... 7.92 Mauser K98 (Russian capture)
mausernut....................44................... ..............44.......... .303 P14 (Eddystone)
jmoore.........................43..............XX. ..............43.2....... .30 M1 M1 carbine
fn111557......................43.................. ...............43.......... .30 M1 M1 carbine (IBM)
EDmills40......................42................. ................42.......... .30-06 M1917 (Eddystone)
jmoore.........................41................. ................41.......... 7mm Mauser Oviedo 1893
bigduke6......................41.................. ................42.......... 7.5x55 Swiss K11
Jimmy K.......................40........................ ..........40.......... .30 M1 M1 Carbine
jmoore........................39.................. ................39.......... .30.06 Johnson Rifle
mausernut...................39.................... ..............39.......... 7.62x54 Mauser 91-30
mausernut...................38.................... ..............38.......... 7.62x54 Mauser M44
DMark..........................27................. ................27........... .30-06 M1903
CAT 2
Member.................... score........v (x) bull.........total...........rifle.
rusty.........................49/48............X................97.1.......... .303 No4 Mk2 (PH 8/53 sight)
CAT 3
Member.................... score........v (x) bull.........total...........rifle.
Entry Level...................50..............XX........ ......50.2......... .303 No4 Mk1 (T)
broadarrow303.............50..............XX.... ..........50.2.......... 7.62mm L42A1 (chordal rifling)
gunner.........................47...............X. ..............47.1......... .303 No4 Mk1*(T Repro) Kahles scope
CAT 4
Member.................... score........v (x) bull.........total...........rifle.
jmoore........................45.................. ...............45............ .220 swift Type 38 Arisaka Winchester M74 Barrel
CAT 6
Member.................... score........v (x) bull.........total...........rifle.
jmoore........................40.................. ...............40............ SMLE Sht .22 MKIV
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"Here's one I made earlier"
Right lads, since I am not yet in a condition to fire my Big Bangers, but do not wish to let "Gunner" Ulrich have it all his own way, I take the liberty of providing one I shot earlier ... several years earlier in fact. Just in the hope of provoking some others out there to get out and see what their old rifles will do - it may be a lot better than you expect.
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This target was created by leaving my sighter target on the board behind the competition target. Hence the ragged holes.
As soon as circumstance permit, I will fire a fresh 5-shot group for this competition.
Patrick
:wave:
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1943 T with and without scope
Target #1 is with scope and target #2 is without scope. I included pictures of the rifle. The ammunition. S&B cases, 43 grains Reloader 15 and 180 Sierra FB Spitzer I did staple target 2 upside down but it shouldn't matter. I now have to read the front sight adjustment notes since I held off slightly to get on target.
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Vintage Matches at Camp Perry
Sorry I don't check this site very often, but, Lucky me! I'm only 90 miles from Camp Perry and have been shooting in the National Matches since 1991. The first time I shot the 'Vintage' match was with a Belgian Mauser in .30-06, receiver marking exactly as pictured on page 164 of "Mauser Bolt Rifles" Third Edition by Ludwig Olson. I shot well enough with that rifle to get a bronze medal with it. I have since switched to my German Mod 98, code ar 43, all matching, and have managed to earn a couple more bronze medals with it. The course of fire is 5 sighters slow prone, 10 shots for record slow prone, 10 shots rapid prone, and 10 shots standing offhand slow fire for a possible 300 points, all at 200 yards. Great fun!
Unsure how well I will do this year as I just had hernia repair surgery Monday of last week. Check out the CMP website for information on the National Matches: Civilian Marksmanship Program and entry information. The hardest thing about Camp Perry is finding lodging. I'll be there to shoot 8 matches in 7 days, again, 1-7 August.
August 30th/100 yrds/Aurora Sportsmans Club
This morning I brought out two of my M1's, both shot great at 100 yards, I do need some relief work on one due to a milled trigger guard I installed ( won't latch solidly).
Installed the new SC bolt sleeve for my 1903A3 and took a few warm-ups before I shot the target below, 100 yards using HXP 66; the flyer was intentional as I was trying to get closer to the X).
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ug302011-1.jpg
It helps my aim if I use a shoot-N-C pasted over the 100 yard small bore target.
I doubt the grasshopper located at about 10 o'clock was there when I was shooting!
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...g302011C-1.jpg
