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I am not sure what this bayonet is , probably far from what you need. I asked once on a forum and the answer was that it was for the SMLE III Lee Enfield. The bayonet is an orphan , no rifle here. It was captured during the battle in Panama , what 1990? It iis dated 1913 the only mark I see that might be a manuf is PFD. On the metal hilt is the number 804 . The wooden grips are pretty beat uop.
Any idea who can use this one?
I'm sorry, is there a pic that I'm not seeing?
I don't think so ... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
I asked him in a PM to try a provide a pic so someone could help him ...
Regards,
Badger
OK, gguys , I am trying to take some pictures got a couple b4 the battery died. Wont try to img them
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...blade001-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...blade002-1.jpg
My camera is much smarter than I.
Russ
You have a 1907 hook quillion bayonet from Great Britain or Austrailia. Fit on the #1 Mk 3 SMLE. The hook was cut in 1913 so they are quite rare. Put it on the Lee Enfield forum if it's not already and they will love the story of where it came from.
Thanks for the info, I will post it on the Lee Enfield forum . Maybe they will enjoy the tale.
Russ
Russ, I will move this thread over there for you and leave a permanent re-direct link in the Edged Weapons forum, so the folks who frequent here can track it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kr6ng
Regards,
Badger
The muzzle rings looks a little too high for a Pattern 07 Sword Bayonet; it may be the angle the picture has been taken at but it looks more like an Ariska bayonet to me.
I thought about that too Mick, but the proof marks are there. Are you thinking it's one of those early made for Japan in the UK things?
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Originally Posted by browningautorifle
Yes, or possibly a 1913 trials sword bayonet, although that would be as rare as rocking horse poo!
Wouldn't that be neat! That would bear more and closer pics. The broad arrow is unmistakable. The bend mark is present and the other marks(PFD) are UK I think. It's not in the book I have. (Lee Enfield Story) I just checked Skennerton's book on the US Enfield. The bayonet is in fact the trials blade for the 276 cal pattern 1913. There were only a little over 1000 of these made. So, good catch Mick, it's rarer than rocking horse poo. Wonder what the value is???
I may be better able to explain what is on the blade than taking a photo
On one side a crown over GR
1913
5 13
FFd or PFD
The other side
lookks like an inverted Von a stem , one side of V heaavier
small crownover TEoverF
another smalll crown over TE over F
and a stange looking X
On the iron hilt the nember 804
That is allk I see on this one.
Russ
Russ... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kr6ng
You didn't see it because you probably did what a lot of folks do, which is use your back space key and expect to a see a "new" post on a stale dated browser page (because of using the back space key).
When you do that, you have "refresh" the page you're browsing... ;)
I've deleted your second (and duplicate) post ...
Regards,
Badger
It IS a Pattern of 1913 Trials bayonet. VERY rare. Have never seen one, only read about them. About 1200 were made, and most had the hooks cut off for use with the P-14 rifle. The grips for the P-13 bayonet did not have the 2 cross grooves like the P-14 bayonets did.
Well, since I am not very knowledgeable about bayonets, I dont know what the 2 cross grooves refers to, where were the grooves. Just trying to make sure I am noit misrepresenting this bayonet.
Russ
OK, I finally managed to get a couple of decent pictures of the markings on the bayonet
https://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/deleted.gif
https://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/deleted.gif
The two grooves were cut across the wooden grips of the handles to distinguish it from the 1907 Pattern Sword Bayonet.Quote:
Originally Posted by kr6ng
Very nice! Very lucky catch!
Holly cow! I am impressed, a beautiful bayonet and a great catch. Thanks for showing this to us. :)