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have a chance to pick up an underwood with a 1943 dated underwood barrel have not seen the gun in person, just pictures. from what I see it has a flat bolt, decent finish, stock O.K, adjustable rear site, bayonet lug. supposed to fuction fine, now for the question, would you pay 450 for it? assuming it is not shot out?
As you described it? Yes.
supposed to meet the guy Fri. says no import stamp, seems to be a birch stock with a walnut handguard , barrel says 5-43 underwood with a flaming bomb
If you're not interested point him at me. Underwoods are some of the better, more accurate carbines out there. I own one. Here's what an Underwood barrel can do.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...mage0012-1.jpg
I am probably going to trade him my beretta px4 for it, this will be my 2nd one in two weeks
now I am confused the guy emailed me saying the serial number was in the 3,500,000 range I do not see that as an underwood reciever
Because it has an Underwood barrel he is naming it as such. Very common for this. I believe that would be an S.G. serial number but I don't have my notes in front of me here at work. Anyone??? Still worth the money.
I see that the 3,500.000 range was a saginaw so unless he is mistaken about the serial number, which I doubt, it would be a saginaw with a 5-43 barrel.
When you use the numbers "3,500,000" that is a general estimate... there are S.G. and S'G' in and around that general area.
Couple of points...
1) The seller may or may not know what he has. So make sure you know what it is before you agree.
2) while he says its not an import, you may also want to look for things like re-welded receiver, fresh park that hids things, and bore pitting.
If it is a good receiver, the muzzle wear is good and there is no massive pitting, it is probably worth $450 just as shooter. From the general description, it does not sound like is it a collectable. Of course, like a box of cracker jacks, you never know what you get inside untill you crack her open...
Saginaw S.G. only used SG barrels.
If this barrel is original, The receiver is likely a S'G' from Grand Rapids.
Underwood barrels were most likely to be found on S'G' carbines and the date is about right per the serial range.
In decent shape well worth the asking price around here.
See if the front sight has a groove behind the sight blade.
Get a description of the trigger group.
S'G' parts draw a premium.
The bad news...... S'G' stocks are hard to find and pricey !
Good Luck.......
Charlie-painter777
just looked at the pictures, I see no groove behind the blade, looks flat
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just heard back from owner, he tells me it is marked saginaw sg, does that tell me anything
That's a GOOD THING..........
Because I got that backwards !
Grooved sight on S.G.
LOL,
Charlie-painter777
Wide locking tang found on S.G. carbines (also on Auto Ordnance sub contract receivers).
Rear of the receiver, where the recoil plate locks on.
Most other makers have the narrow locking tang.
Charlie-painter777
Starting to sound like $450 is good price, plus you will save FFL and shipping by the FTF purchase. If you do decide to buy it, you got to post some pictures.
Saving Transfer Fees, Shipping, Delivery Confirmation, Tracking, Taxes in some cases and Insurance.
Seen some sellers asking for $100 to ship. With Insurance, Confirmation, Packaging and Handling and the cost of the Fee charged by their FFL if your FFL won't accept by a private seller EXTRA. Have seen some FFL dealers charging $75 for a transfer. Adds up fast.
Then hope it gets there !
bob34787,
Any pictures you could post that we can look at?
Now you've got us all interested in seeing it !
If I can't grab a new one for myself. It's still a good feeling knowing someone may be scoring !
Plus FWIW, I've seen some Import marked carbines fetching over $500+.
Again.......... Best of Luck,
Charlie-painter777
Is that true, that SG used only SG barrels? Warbaby lists INLAND, BUFFALO ARMS, and UNDERWOOD as alternates (over unspecified serial number ranges).
By far the most common barrel found as original to the receiver on Saginaw Gear S.G. carbines will be Saginaw barrels.
Charlie-painter777
P.S. Some say they ONLY used SG barrels............... I just don't want to go that far.
OK Charlie, I'm still struggling with the Saginaw thing. Didn't mean to sound like I knew it all :D
have pictures in my email, just do not know how to post them, anybody got that figured out I will email them to you
O.K I am going to try to post some pics, ignore the two of my Inland receiver.Picasa Web Albums - robert schmidt - Untitled Album