I CAN"T update my browser!:crying: Is there some way to permanently turn off the new header that states the obvious every time I go to a new screen?:bitch:
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I CAN"T update my browser!:crying: Is there some way to permanently turn off the new header that states the obvious every time I go to a new screen?:bitch:
We're looking into it. :thup:Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
It ONLY appears to users of Microsoft IE6 browser versions and earlier. The reason is that those browser versions have serious security issues for the end user (you) and exposes both their computer and the network it may be on (other people's computers) to the same problems. Also, vBulletin no longer fully works with IE6 and earlier browsers, so it effectively stops users from sending requests for tech support for issues that have nothing to do with the vBulletin software.
For now, when you land on the site, just quickly click the X in the top right corner of the message. It should stay OFF for the balance of your session. ;)
By the way, upgrading a stand alone computer, or the local area network provided version of IE6 is a two minute job and it's FREE, so you might want to report the serious security risk to your LAN Administrator and suggest they check it our and click the one button called "upgrade" and make your browsing life more secure and also FASTER.
We'll post here if we can figure out how to permit individual users to permanently remove the warning after viewing it once.
We're doing our best to meet everyone's varying needs... :)
Thanks for the feedback partner ... :cheers:
Regards,
Doug (Badger)
I have a feeling that the reasons for continuing the use of IE6 here have to do w/ compatability with some of our older programs. We have some stuff that's still DOS based that are the best programs ever tried. Having suffered through several failed "upgrades" we LIKE the core program!
I've discussed it w/ my immediate superiors, and they have no better explanation, so I'll just suffer along...
It could be something that has to be cleared w/ the federal types for all I know- and some of them are using 1950s tech!
Thanks ever so much! The big pink billboard is no longer!:thup:
Well, it is only a temporary patch to accommodate you ... :thup:Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
The bad news is that we've seen notices that vBulletin (authors of the Bulletin Board Software) will most likely withdraw any support for IE6 within the next 12 months. It means that you will probable not be able to access sites running their software at that point, or if you can, it might mean a lot of errors, hang-ups and perhaps even more serious security violations.
BTW, the explanation given to you by your superiors about DOS etc., has no bearing on whether you use IE6 or upgrade at least to 2007 (IE7) which would be a vast improvement for you. ;)
Regards,
Badger
My superiors have no real idea why, either. Any speculation is mine! Since I'm not a computer guy, nor care to be one, my ideas are likely stupid, but the mind DOES wander...whilst waiting for the page to crash and start the whole process over.
Fortunately, it only takes about 1800ms to reload the home page, according to the speed check thingy. (What happened to the other performance check thing? When clicked upon, all that comes up are the smilie selections!:confused:)
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=18677
Thanks for the accommodation to my "handicap". I actually tried to load an update:yikes::nono: but it is blocked- no dice. It's not like our IT department is small or anything, they probably employ 2000 people or so! It may be that we Morlocks still have a ways to go before the Eloi yield all the reins of power...I don't know what the "fair folk" are using as their browser.
:move eek: .... :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
I think someone needs to clean house, because if your organization has 2,000 folks in IT and their still using IE6, someone isn't doing a very good job managing it, particuraly the security aspects. :lol:
The local performance check thing was removed because nobody was using it .. :)
Thanks for catching the loose link. I'll fix that in the coming weeks .. I hope ... :cheers:
Regards,
Badger
Is it just me or is the site doing something odd? Almost no graphics of any sort, just red x's everywhere! Can't even see the button to make a red "x"- or a bold one. About the only graphics left are my bunny rabbit and Badger's license plate.
The red X's mean that your browser is unable to retrieve the picture associated with the link on our site that points to that picture, so your browser substitutes a standard default symbol instead. If you see some pics at all, they are ones that are stored on your local computer in your browser's cache memory for faster retrieval. Browsers do that on pics that are accessed frequently enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
You should also note that some members who don't want to pay for storage on sites like PhotoBucket often use the FREE 30 day capability of sites like that, Unfortunately, PhotoBucket deletes those pics after 30 days and all you see in the member's post is a graphic that says the pic has been moved or deleted. It's such a waste of time for a member to do that because any other member who refers to that post after 30 days doesn't get to see the pics and sometimes has no idea what the original content was about. We have one or two members here who are really bad about doing this and they post a lot of pics with this FREE 30 day service stuff, which ends up creating a lot of useless post content. We've been thinking of blocking members who do this as it affects the content of the site and we end up answering a lot of emails from other members asking where's the poster's pics gone. I have no idea why any member here would want to do this considering we offer FREE hosting and storage of pics for members in our Member's Photo Gallery (click here). Heck, that facility even provides the special bulletin board code for each pic, so all any member using it has to do is cut-n-paste that code into their post and the pic appears, plus because it's stored on our site the pics will remain forever and never disappear.
Anyway, so much for our beef, but now to your problem.... :)
We've done nothing on our end that would cause this, particularly considering you're saying you're seeing NO pics at all. That means that pics not only from our site, but from sites that other members are using for their pics are also not showing up. It's possible that your IT department is blocking incoming redirected links you are accessing from your local computer browser, but it's more likely that somehow the "show graphics" option in your browser has been turned OFF? Check your browser settings or have someone from T do so and see if that's happened.
Let me know if there's anything else we can do.... :cheers:
Regards,
Doug
Supposedly it's allowed, but something is changed. Oddly it's not affecting other sites that I've seen, so I'm thinking someone behind the scenes is exercising a bit of "control". It's their system, so I've no say in the matter. (Sites just checked include ar15.com, jouster.com, and m14tfl.com - all "no dramas", and fnforum.net -minor graphics removal.)
I think the IT branch is in their own complex some few miles away, I've never really seen any, except a few installers running more cables in the overhead raceways, and, rarely, crawling inside one of the closet sized blue and black boxes of mystery.
Well, I reckon I'm going to be scarce unless I start getting week ends off again...Very sad.:crying: Odd how the smilie icon is blocked but the function still works! Dang, still have work to do on several threads and photo deals.
Mind you, things could be back to normal at any time. I've given up trying to guess this kind of thing.
I have no other complaints from any other members about all their graphics re-direction links being blocked (showing red X's), so I suspect it must be local to your environment, but it is strange that you can see all the graphics symbols and pics from other sites mentioned and just not ours. :confused:
Out of curiosity about something it might be, try CLEARING your Internet cache, as it may have become corrupted ....
If there's anything we can do to help, let me know. I'd be happy to speak to your IT guys, or perhaps someone who sits near your machine that is more computer "savvy" and see if we can check some of your IE6 settings.
Have you thought about downloading FireFox and installing it on your local computer, or would they hang you in the courtyard for that ... :lol:
Regards,
Doug
Only took three tries to read your last post! Urff!
It isn't MAY not download Firefox, but CANNOT download! I'm thinking IE6 is only for the INTRANET- what workings are going on for INTERNET access I have no clue. Layers upon layers- Our system is probably handling over 80,000 users daily, minimum, and that doesn't begin to count the several hundred thousand customer interactions (millions?), daily, w/ 250,000+ sales on the front(retail side), plus whatever internal business transactions w/ vendors and such.
Internet caches also cannot be modified from these terminals.
My "playtime" concerns are of no importance in the greater scheme of things. Sorry! I feel like I've abandoned my duty, but I reckon it ain't a huge thing as you've many others who will contribute good info. If things change I'll certainly jump back in, but who knows? One bright note- I've two weeks vacation coming up, so I'll probably abuse WBS2111's computer a bit!
No worries from me, I never expected that this foray would get even near the degree of invovlement that it has. Hopefully, some folk were helped along the way.
"Magic"! Graphics are back. Pay no attention to the group behind the curtain....Still running IE6, though.
Phooey, that didn't last long! Back to flying blind. Errr.
:bitch:Since this is my own little whiney thread, it seems, I gotta say that after two weeks away from work computers, coming back to 'em is wretched!!!! Can't hardly read a post, often it takes multiple tries over 4-5 minutes, which is half of break time.
Deer season opens tomorrow for firearms, so weekend access will be reduced as well.
Y'all are gonna drag me into the 21st century, I'm afraid. Not soon, but the frustration level is growing. I just can't see blowing up perfectly good ammo money on some new but immediately obsolete digital gadget again. Home computer is right out, so that leaves some kind of handheld "thinngy".
Curse you, "Red" Badger!:)
Have you tried switching to the Mobile style?
Scroll the web site screen all the way down and check the bottom left corner. You'll see a drop down selection box and one of the choices for the display style for your end is Mobile. It's virtually all text with little graphics but mobile phone users and members who still use slow dial-up 56kb connections really like it.
The default when people register is Medium brown and a lot of people switch their own personal default to Light because they prefer a bright white screen. You can set you own default which will remember what you've chosen for future logins under your personal General Options (click here) in the Settings area of your User Control Panel.
Hope that helps ... :)
Regards,
Doug
Well, I'll try those settings when I get back to work!
As I don't have any mobile devices that do much more than ring, it wont help there, yet. Heck, it's a prepaid no frills thing, but people that know me are amazed when it's actually turned on...and not lost at the same time.
Well, it seems that te mobile option isn't required if the photo option is turned off. I also turned off the avatars and signatures. Still get script errors, but don't have to wait to clear them. MUCH faster!
Gonna try the MOBILE option a bit and see how that goes as well.(not that this decrepit old PC is exactly mobile...)
Did you make some security upgrades to the site? Can't hardly access posts at my usual weeknight location as of last night. (Company keeps getting Microsoft to update IE6, believe it or don't! I guess if you've several thousand computers and more money than sense...) Can still sort of get to the posts, usually, but I'm not sure how long it'll keep working.
Can't tell when or if they'll go to a new system what with jet fuel at insane-o prices.
Nope, no upgrades or changes that would impact IE6 any worse than it already is .. :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
Did you switch to "Mobile Interface" and try that?
Regards,
Doug
"Mobile" is how I've been operating during the week (00:30 to 06:00) for many months now. The dire warning in "Mobile" are new as of last night. Only on this site, too! (I visit fnforum.net and M14forum.com a bit when things are slow.) Oh, well. not blocked altogether, yet! This situation can't last too much longer, but I've thought that for a while, too...
When you say "dire warning", I'm not sure what you mean? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
Regards,
Doug
Maybe I can do a cut and paste Sunday night. This "weekend computer" isn't the drama. Hold, please...
Made it through a few threads before this messeage appeared:
Error 403
We're sorry, but we could not fulfill your request for /showthread.php?t=30323&p=169295#post169295 on this server.
You do not have permission to access this server.
Your technical support key is: cdae-161a-dfd9-b1ad
You can use this key to fix this problem yourself.
If you are unable to fix the problem yourself, please contact webmaster(@)milsurps(.)com and be sure to provide the technical support key shown above.
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Which if you click on the link "fix this problem yourself", displays the following message. (doesn't happen all the time, and merely hitting the "back" button a couple of times temporarily "fixes" the problem.):
Technical Support
Your request was intercepted by Bad Behavior, security software which protects the Web site you visited from malicious activity, such as hackers, spam and viruses. We apologize for the inconvenience, but your request matched a profile of suspicious activity. This problem is usually quite easy to fix.
Your request was blocked because of malicious automated requests received from your computer's IP address.
This problem may be caused by viruses or spyware on your computer, or by malicious software that pretends to be anti-virus or anti-spyware software. Ensure that you have REAL anti-virus and anti-spyware software on your computer, that they are kept up-to-date, and that you have run a full system scan using each tool. Once your system is cleaned of viruses and spyware, please try your request again.
The free Microsoft Security Essentials provides reasonable protection against a wide variety of malicious software.
If you have just submitted data to the Web site you were visiting before you were blocked, this may be a bug in your Web browser. Click the Back button three times to continue browsing. Then consider replacing your Web browser with a standard Web browser.
If the above suggestions fail to resolve the problem, click Back and contact the e-mail address you were given for further assistance.
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The next to last paragraph seems the likely cause, I guess. Probably a recent update to the browser.
Wow ... :eek:
This is the first time in 5 years that I've ever seen our internal firewall threat analyzer light up like this ... :confused:
Besides what it told you and according to the key log, it appears that it thinks your IE6 Browser is now trying to ....... Request contained a malicious JavaScript or SQL injection attack. :help:
Anyway, I've contacted the developer who writes the protection software to see if there's anything we can do to help you around your IE6 dilemma.... will advise ... :thup:
Edit: Got a answer back as follows:
Quote:
This is caused by a bug in very old versions of Internet Explorer (specifically IE6 on Windows XP). The user just needs to update their browser, or use a different browser. When this happens, the user's post has gone through successfully, they'll just need to hit Back and refresh the forum thread to see it.
The other thing is that if they're at work, and it's not likely work-related, they will probably have a lot of trouble with getting their company to update IE or let them use something else. Without getting in trouble for goofing off at work, that is.
Regards,
Doug
"The other thing is that if they're at work, and it's not likely work-related, they will probably have a lot of trouble with getting their company to update IE or let them use something else. Without getting in trouble for goofing off at work, that is."
No trouble, as I've asked before (not that there's hardly any supervision- one of the beauties of night shift!), but I reckon the IT division will get around to it one day. Probably have to replace a thousand or two computers first, though!
Update:
Got an E-mail last week from our product line manager saying he doesn't mind "surfing the internet" during breaktime just as long as the work station is left clean of litter.
THIS week the official answer to updating almost 1500 computers came out- Most will denied internet access! (Intra-net only). We have many older but vital programs that just aren't compatible w/ new IE platforms. Since outside access isn't vital for most of our work, it's easier to cut outside connection capabilities. Makes sense.
Don't know if there will be any easily accessible computers when the change takes place, so my presence here may be much less! Soooo...???
That's unfortunate partner ... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
To be honest, my experience in IT and systems development goes back almost 30 years and I've never seen such a backwards reaction to handling technology upgrades, particularly founded on the premise that they're trying to protect antiquated programs. We have a major investment running an old DOS (1980's) based database and they're using IE8 and web access to it no problem. If I were the CEO of your corporation, I'd be asking some hard questions about who's making these decisions and why. :lol:
Anyway, your presence will be missed my friend. ;)
Maybe buy an iPad2 and access the site from it anytime and anywhere you want?
Can I access the milsurps.com site from dial-up, cell phone, iPhone or Blackberry?
Most of my daily access is using my small iPhone or larger iPad and it works great ... :thup:
Regards,
Doug
Maybe, but I'm trending the other way- thinking of dumping cable and doing w/o TV altogether. I started this internet stuff only because my employer forced an e-mail address on me!
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(Cable got knocked out over a week ago during a storm and they haven't bother to fix it yet.)
As regards archaic, it's built into this industry due to regulatory and safety issues. Commercial pilots still can't fly the shortest distance between two points as their flight plans require compass headings, so no GPS navigation as a primary reference- probably not even a tertiary ref!
Regardless, I'm not in disagreement with the proposal to limit outside access except for the few that actually need it. Especially if it means no new "improved" programs. We've spent millions on new systems in the past, only to find they were worse than what we had or ended up fragile or some such. What we have works EXTREMELY well, likely better than any other on this hemisphere- Our continued worldwide success as a maintenance provider seems to prove it.
Update for Iinternet Explorer users ....
All Internet Explorer browser versions allow cookiejacking | Ecommerce Journal
Regards,Quote:
Internet Explorer was found to have a flaw that allows hackers to steal cookies to access their accounts on some websites. The bug was found by a security researcher Rosario Valotta who said it could let hackers steal credentials to access FaceBook, Twitter and other websites.
"Any website. Any cookie. Limit is just your imagination," said Valotta, an independent Internet security researcher based in Italy.
Hackers can exploit the flaw to access a data file stored inside the browser known as a "cookie," which holds the login name and password to a web account, Valotta said via email
As a perpetrator access the cookie they can use it to access the same site concludes Valotta who dubs the technique as "cookiejacking."
The vulnerability affects all versions of Internet Explorer, including IE 9, on every version of the Windows operating system.
To exploit the flaw, the hacker must persuade the victim to drag and drop an object across the PC's screen before the cookie can be hijacked.
While it may sound like a difficult task, Valotta said he was able to do it fairly easily. He built a puzzle that he put up on Facebook in which users are challenged to "undress" a photo of an attractive woman.
"I published this game online on FaceBook and in less than three days, more than 80 cookies were sent to my server," he said. "And I've only got 150 friends."
Doug
Hpw would this flaw affect this site?
My internet exposure is pretty limited.
Is Firefox or AOL better to access this site? (not an option during the week.)
It doesn't affect you on THIS site, but just be aware, as per the article, what you're doing with IE on other sites. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
Do not use AOL... you will "hang" yourself in the closet ... :lol:
Firefox or Safari are very good browsers (much faster than any IE version) and I use both ... :)
You should give them a try and check the speed differences, unless your computer s the limiting factor.
Regards,
Doug
No worries with AOL, we ignore most of it's features- It's WBS2111's work e-mail address and he doesn't do change well.
Firefox is OK, but I keep closing it out accidentally. Speed isn't an issue even with the old computers, this one is only three years old, so it's just a "baby" for me. (And, no, I still don't own one!- AND went back to broadcast TV, but hardly watch it anyway.)
It has it's stupid front page, but AOL is responding 5-10 times faster than Firefox this morning! Had enough of waiting and am back to AOL. Posts go up faster and phot editing is HUGELY quicker!Quote:
Originally Posted by Badger
Getting a direct Microsoft IE6 update including security for XP as this is being typed. I guess if your pocketbook is deep enough...Must be easier than getting all the old gov't controlled stuff updated. Wierd.
You might have to make some settings changes in your IE6 Browser after the update is installed, or things might even get worse. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
Internet Explorer 6 software update and its effect on ActiveX controls
Regards,
Doug
IE8! Finally... Oddly, it still crashes in the regular format, but the new IE8 thingie "uncrashes" it immediately. Just as long as it sort of works, that's fine!
The "mobile mode" DOES have one particularly useful feature that the regular format mode doesn't seem to have- It remembers the last post read and takes you immediately to the "first unread post". Quite handy at times.
Glad you were able to upgrade ... :thup:Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
By the way, it's not just unique to the Mobile Style we have, ALL browsers go to the last post you've read in a thread. For example, I use FireFox and if I click on a thread I've previously read, it takes me right to the first unread post in that thread. What causes this is your own database record stored on our site, not the browser. It remembers what you've read and haven't read. There's also an option called View First Unread located in every thread along the top navigation bar for the thread, to the left of other options. It does the same thing.
Regards,
Doug
Well, sometimes the obvious just isn't...:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Badger
BTW, The corporate use of old browsers apparently isn't uncommon- behind the scenes. Some old programs just don't take to the new features. Fire alarm systems for example. A friend who works for another multinational corporation says he sees this fairly regularly. Most folk aren't allowed to use it for such nefarious purposes as posting on this fine site, though! All blocked and internalized. We Morlocks in the shops never were denied access. In fact, quite the opposite, just as long as quality and productivity remain on an upward trend. I suspect IE6 is still running in our systems, somewhere...