Hello everybody,
in my M1 Garand I changed all three wooden parts but in the front handguard I have a slightly movement of about 2 mm.
How can I please fix it ?
Thank you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzE4XcR03_E
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Hello everybody,
in my M1 Garand I changed all three wooden parts but in the front handguard I have a slightly movement of about 2 mm.
How can I please fix it ?
Thank you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzE4XcR03_E
I found this solution http://www.trfindley.com/pgfxlshg.html
I wouldn't get too wrapped up in trying to sort out a loose handguard. There's supposed to be movement or you'll crack the wood in the handguard when the rifle heats up. Too tight a handguard also affects accurracy. The match guns have the upper handguard fastened to the band so they float and don't touch the gas cylinder at all. They can't be stripped in the normal way though. How does it shoot in the first place?
Unfortunatly it shoots bad, the group is large and spread from 7 to 8 hour like it is in the image posted on the web-site I linked. Same result as the right side image, not at 300 but at 110 Yards only.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../targets-1.jpg
If you hand guard is to tight then it will string the shots. The front hand guard should not be tight as it will bow the barrel as it heats up if you use the Gas cylinder to tighten it in place. If you screw it to the lower band to stop movement you will not be allowed to use it in some Garand matches.
Tom Findley is not the person to use as a references as he has been a very big part of the forgery issues and was part of many fleecing of people even if by proxy. He also has taken many of our picture and is using them as examples without asking us. I do not want my photos used on his sight as I am against what he does and spent many years trying to stop people from loosing money by helping them identify fakes before spending allot of money for a $50.00 stock with fake marks. Rick B
I am sorry if I posted Tom Findley website link and the image.
I am in Italy and I am not aware of what people is doing in USA ...
I got a suggestion from an Italian friend who is in touch with some M1 Garand shooters in USA : This should be a quick and dirty solution, get a paper clip and cut a piece long same as the barrel circumference and insert it between gas cilynder and front handguard.
p.s.
I only hope that the complete stock I bought at ebay.com in US is not a fake with fake cartouche. It costed me a real fortune including shipping costs to Italy and taxes to local custom.
Here it it, now the handguard seems almost fixed
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...mg5032vv-1.jpg
Nice if that springs back and forth like it looks. If you post a picture of the markings I can verify it for you. Thanks,, Rick B
Actually it is just a piece of paper clip, not really a spring.
I mean this
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...per_clip-1.jpg
Here is the stock I bought with DOD 1/2" cartouche and the circled P.
Thank you for checking, Rick B.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...img4924m-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...img4925t-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...img4926p-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...img4927j-1.jpg
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I have a D-Day June '44 M1 Garand too.
Can you please also check if this SA GAW mark is original or a fake ?
Thank you again.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../7289386-1.jpg
Rick B is correct, those target photos are mine from an old GCA article I wrote on NMs. A credit to the GCA Journal would have been nice.
Did you discuss about this problem with Tom Findley sending him an email ( hobbiesnov3 @ trfindley.com) ?Quote:
Originally Posted by bob seijas
I think credits should be listed at his website close your target photos.
Hello Rick B.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick B
I have posted the pictures of the markings of my 2 stocks, are they original or fakes ? .... Thanks.
Both stock cartouches look right to me but lets wait on Rick for his OK. Very nice looking rifle. Don't expect a group like the one on the left as that was fired by a National Match conditioned rifle and, most likly, fired from a Targeting Fixture. If the paper clip fix does not work for you I would permanently attach the hand guard to the lower band using either two wood screws or glue. As the lower band is pinned to barrel movement of the front handguard is eliminated. As you live in Italy I doubt you will be concerned with Garand match rules.
Thank you, Joe W.
Correct, no Garand Match rules here.
Both markings look good and the DAS or eagle and stars is for a 5.6 million Springfield or later. Rick B
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By the way Tom Findley gives no credit nor does Larry Babcock. I refuse to buy anything of theirs for the simple reason that allot of the nose to the grind work I did is being used by both with no credit. I expect the Barn Wood story to be copied by both one day. Nothing hurts more than to have discovered something and try to tell someone who returns with I knew that from so and so who discovered it. And you know they only copied and printed it for their on glory. Rick B
Thank You for confirming me that markings are original, Rick B.
Unfortunatly plagiarism or unauthorized copies of material covered by copyright are very common crimes, I think everywhere.