I-cut Win with no cartouches.

This Win stock and deep/wide channel hand guard were a pair and the stock has had the cartouches sanded off, but it's got all the Winchester attributes. Wondering what the value is on this item and if I did okay. There are heavy type II band marks and a little cracking shown at the tip. Otherwise, a solid stock that has Win metal (later recoil plate). No repairs. No rebuild stamps. Opinions on value? I'm not pricing to sell. I'm just curious what retail is to justify what I have in it? Thanks for any help.

(IBM stocks always look similar to me), then it is not uncommon for the W to be missing in the slingwell.

Possible it was never stamped to begin with. Every book I have states that the earliest WRA Type I's could be found unmarked.

IMHO,
In curent state stock and HG could still sell for $300+

Small router bit cutting in the slide channel and number stamped on the inner right rail is common trait to a WRA stock.
Raised area over the Escutheon nut and angle cut at the frt edge of slingwell also common to WRA stocks.

Charlie-painter777

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Feel along the right side and left side of the stock just forward of the inner wood bridge. If it hasn't been sanded away, you'll feel a divet in the wood in this area. You'll also feel a divit on the bottom forward of the frt of the trigger housing inlet.

Ch

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A picture of the milling style under that HG can show if it was made by WRA also.

HTH

Ch

1014232 has an unmarked stock along with several unmarked internal parts

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Here is 1013812 no cartouches anyware. There is a number stamp in the bridge. Would have to get it out. If you need a pic of the stamp let me know.
Only 420 away from David's. Made the same Day? Got to like the blued bolts and dated barrels.

Best Regards.....Frank


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Frank. That is just too cool. Thanks very much for sharing.

This one is marked 162 on the bridge and C on the right internal flat of the receiver area. Additionally the unmarked parts include the bolt, extractor, hammer, trigger, and sear.

Would love to see additional photos when you have the chance. Best regards.

BTW, does the club have a data sheet on yours?

Mine doesn't have any cartouche either.

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Pretty stuff, guys. I wish I had the early rifle to go with it. 113m is the earliest I have.

Dave, I'll post more pics in the morning. Data sheet is on the way. Do you think they were assembled on the same day? That would be cool!

Regards.....Frank

Frank,

Some really good information in NL #337. Shows the last number that was applied each day at Winchester.

As BQ points out however, these are the dates the numbers were applied to receivers, not the dates of completion, which could add another 30-45 days.

The last number applied on December 17. 1942 was 1013732
The last number applied on December 18, 1942 was 1014251

Dave, got real busy around here today. I'll try and get some pics up tomorrow.....Frank

Some really good information in NL #337. Shows the last number that was applied each day at Winchester.

As BQ points out however, these are the dates the numbers were applied to receivers, not the dates of completion, which could add another 30-45 days.

The last number applied on December 17. 1942 was 1013732
The last number applied on December 18, 1942 was 1014251

I don't have CC NL #337. When I joined I think it started @ CC NL # 345~, I do have the first 3-4 years worth that were passed on to me from a fellow CC member. But still have a rather big gap.

My question is regarding the build date for the WRA 1,030,621 I picked up recently.
IIRC WRA stopped dating their barrels late 12-42 (?)
Do you think I'd be close guessing my build date say: Late Jan-Mid Feb 1943?

Thx,
Charlie-painter777

Hey Charlie,

Per NL #336 the highest reported dated barrel of 2-43 is 1027534

Per NL #337 the last number applied on 2-12-43 is 1030598 and on 2-13-43 is 1030898

Best regards,

David

I don't recall ever seeing a 43 dated WRA barrel.
Amazing being able to track a gun back to the day it received it's serial number.

Thx,
Charlie

It was a Saturday

LOL,
So........... How was the Weather and What were you up to that day Jim? :lol:

Ch

It was a very slow February for Winchester carbine production with only 4010 carbines made. Must have been a whole month of Saturdays.

Looking it up, it was snowing. I wasn't born for another 6 years and 3 months smart guy. :D