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Here is another posting from the jolly old UK for a "very rare WWI sniper scope:
Vintage WW1 Parker Hale Sniper Scope with Parker Hale Mounts | eBay
When I sent a very well meaning message to explain what he really had (and just because it has PH scope rings - that does not make it a PH sniper scope). Well, I just received a rather "rude" reply from this seller basically telling me to bugger-off.
The extent some people will go to to propogate a falshood never fails to astound me.
Jim
Well Jim good for you to correct him on this, again proves you really can't fix stupid.
You can always rat him out to the ebay authorities, but that might make them cease all scope listing, etc.
If you look at the photobucket with the listing,it looks like he put the wrong pictures up,as there are 2 different scopes. No clue what the second one is. Nice No 53 though.Photo and image hosting, free photo galleries, photo editing
Interesting. I looked at this thread, clicked on the link, and then while I was "on Ebay anyway" decided to snoop around a bit. I searched Ross rifle, and came up with, among other things, a "deactivated" bolt for a Ross cadet. The seller is interesting--different user name, but same essential contact information, one presumably the wife, the other the husband? Ebay has fairly strict rules about having "multiple personalities"................
Take a look at the two listings:
Vintage WW1 Parker Hale Sniper Scope with Parker Hale Mounts | eBay
Ross Rifle 22 1917 Bolt Deactivated | eBay
Ed
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Originally Posted by Maple_Leaf_Eh
I doubt that they would care at all. It is not like an specialist auction house, where articles are often inspected by in-house experts before being accepted and listed. The organizers of on-line auctions appear to have no more responsibility than the organizers of a fleamarket or bootsale. That is to say, evidence of the selling of stolen goods would presumably promote action, but differences of opinion as to originality of the goods - forget it!
I have been following his auctions. His prices are out of control. Check out his auction for a BA 21 rear Enforcer base only:
Parker Hale No BA21 Scope Mount Enfield Scope Mount | eBay
Brian B
Words fail me. The asking price is crazy, as is the postage cost!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B
That same part was available in the white from Numrich for about $25.
I don't know how the sight fulfills function 2 in his description - the peep sight has been ground off!
Also, his idea of mounting the scope using ONLY the ring on this base is a very doubtful proposition.
The real answer here is for ebay to make every question asked appear on/in the format AND the answer!
I know nowt about WW1 sniper scopes. But that is not necessary to pose the screamingly obvious question: How did Parker-Hale manage to make a sniper scope in WW1, considering that the company was NOT renamed Parker-Hale until the 1930s?
And no, you can't wiggle out of it by saying "of course, it's the company that later became Parker-Hale". It was definitely still A.G. Parker in WW1. If you allow this vagueness, then I.M.O.H. you are permitting yourself the same inexactitude as that used by unscrupulous sellers to create a spurious provenance.
Well jimmieZ, you're not wrong, this bloke must have been asleep when he went to charm school!
Just got a very terse reply to my question about the BA21 sight base....
Ebay feed back score one both counts say's it all really. Got 'leave a lone' all over them.
What ever someone wants to post and sell for what ever price is their right. The good part for us is we have very knowledgeable resources at the ready to help us avoid the pitfalls of collecting. Buyer beware!!!! always
His links to other names is indeed fascinating, as stated earlier I thought Ebay frowned on "covert" use of numerous names? Not sure after emailing the guy, what in fact I am looking at.......mounts might be PH but don't recognise the scope manufacturer, has someone confirmed its breeding?
Don't even bother looking at it. It's a ten-a-penny bog standard No53 sight. Only worth its optical lens value and at that price, you could get new lenses ground
I sent him a polite message when he first listed it pointing out that Parker hale did not exist in WW1 and got a rude reply. When I bid £35 for the No 53 scope he was VERY rude. His other prices as noted are mad.
Perhaps I'm "daft", but I recently bought a No.53 scope for 100 Quid. That may sem high to some of you - but I saw one sell a month or so ago for 140 Quid. I'm just afraid that in shooting my No.4 (T) rifles I will break something and won't have parts to fix it. I intend to keep exercising the old girls until I'm either too old, or I finally run out of ammunition!
There's no doubt about it but since Peter's book came out the prices of No42 & No53 scopes have risen significantly, simply because everyone now knows that they are useful for spares to keep our No32's up & running. Even so I have a limit beyond which I will not go - if the vendor wants more than that then they sell it to somebody else, not me! (I am prepared to pay a similar price to Jimmie). I don't get every one on offer but I still just about manage to pick up enough for my requirements.
ATB
it appears that the same poster has relisted this on ebay as of today, using same photos, etc.....maybe a good parts scope for a 32, but not at his ungodly price.
well it sold!
Not to worry, there's a REL No42 on for a mere $500. now. Don't all rush!
$500 is the just starting price! Should I raise the price? LOL With any luck it will sell ,then I can buy that $700 bracket,tin or anything else that says No32 or No4 T. The money will be going back in to the market and perhaps a member might be the beneficiary of my good fortune on EBAY.
The description is honest and fair.
I do know the significance of an REL product to someone that would like to maintain the value of thier product should they wish to sell a sniper set up or ensuring the same quality when in need of repair.
I have a HBM.co No32 MK2 #11071 possibly an earlier edition and this REL scope might not be of use to me. Can anyone varify that, otherwise I would keep it.
Last but not least how can I possibly maintain a contributing member status without turning a profit somewhere! LOL.
My advice EAL303 would be to include the "Make an Offer" option.;):cheers:
To be honest EAL and, as they say, everyone is a prostitute for money. The price of something is the price someone will pay. It really is as simple as that. Price something too high, as MG and Rover cars stupidly did, and you're skint. Price something too low and you're stupid. Let the BUYER or buyers set the price and everyones happy! Anything else is the economics of the mad-house
Just my take on things