I have a nice 91/30 ex-sniper. I would like a good 'smith to re-convert it back to a real PU sniper. I have the scope and mounts. Just need a good 'smith. Any leads? Thank you.
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I have a nice 91/30 ex-sniper. I would like a good 'smith to re-convert it back to a real PU sniper. I have the scope and mounts. Just need a good 'smith. Any leads? Thank you.
They really aren't that hard to do it yourself. You need a drill, a tap and die set and some cutting oil. Took me about half an hour and I've never done anything like ti before. Would I do it on anything else besides a Mosin Nagant, probably not but I had $79 in the rifle and it would still shoot if I messed up a hole.
Surely if it is a genuine ex-sniper, then it must already have the holes? They may have been plugged, but you will still be able to see the correct position.
The corollary to this remark is:
If there is no sign of any mounting holes, then maybe it is not a one-time sniper.
Assuming that it was genuinely set up with a PU scope, once upon a time, but the holes have been plugged - hopefully by inserting threaded stubs and filing them flush with the receiver wall - then it might even be possible to simply drill through the plugs and remove them with a broken-tap extractor.
In any case, I agree with Aragorn. You ought to be able to do this yourself.
The holes are plugged but they weld the blasted things before filing them down. At least that's what they did with mine. Generally, the only way to tell it's an ex-sniper is by looking inside the receiver. You can see the holes from the inside.
Oh dear! Well, at least one can measure up pretty well where the holes need to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aragorn243
I took a samco global ex sniper and restored it to sniper grade, it came with the holes and two pins ,topped it with a 43 progress scope and mount and redid the stock here are a few pics of before and after . here are how she came from samco
And here she is now after i redid her was a 279.00 all matching 44 izzy fom samco global arms ex sniper, now she looks awesome has a perfect .308 dia bore , no counterbore and mint bore all rifling and lands are immaculate. All numbers match on rifle , scope is not the original of course but a 43 progress i picked up. Great shooting rifle.
And here is one i built from a 42 izzy, r guns bent bolt 155.00 shotgun news rifle, drilled and tapped it, put a laminated stock that came off a finn capture rifle after i redid it, and a 44 KAZAN scope on top, drilling and tapping these old mosins is not that hard , notching the stock was harder for the base than drilling and tapping it, sitting with my 1940 tula in a laminated stock i picked up. If you need any help with that project ill be glad to try and help you out ,i build these on a regular basis the mosin snipers, they are easy to do just takes some time and patience.
here are some pics of the 42 with Kazan scope in finn capture stock sitting with a 1940 tula in a laminate, the bore on the 42 sniper measures .312, i just load it with 303 and 7.7 .311 to .312 dia bullets. Great shooter.Quote:
Originally Posted by mil-surp60
you should be able to pop those welds out from the inside out , i have had to do it before then retap it is all, make sure you get the measurement right for the base holes and pins tho.or it will be become a project that seems to never end.I always make sure i have the base in hand before i start on one myself. Repro scopes usually have the wrong spaceing for some of the bases that were used in the day , try and stick with authentic or accumounts , they seem to get em damn close to original spacing for holes and pins. The cheaper aftermarket repros are always off .unless you are starting with an untapped rifle i would stick with authentic if you can find one but acuumounts has about the best repro bases on market. Hope that helps ya my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Chadwick
It is not economic sense to restore and ex when you can buy a complete original for $600. You will loose money. The real deal will hold its value better too.
That would be correct if Calif-Steve was to go out and buy the components. But he already has them:Quote:
Originally Posted by mike radford
So go for it Calif-Steve - what else would you do with the components anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by Calif-Steve
I paid $79 for my ex sniper. Today the same rifle would likely be $139.
Repro scope and mount combined from Sportsman's Guide was about $130. Bolt turning service $35.
Drilled and tapped it myself.
Grand total, I have about $250 in the rifle. Pretty economical and shouldn't have much trouble getting that out of it in the future. It's not "real" but it gets the job done.
i have less than 600.00 in restoring that one, depends who is doing the work i guess, the scope was the most expensive part with the mount than anything, entire build and restoration i have about 575.00 in it, i am happy with that with the mint bore it has and all matching numbers. Like i said came from samco 100% genuine real sniper model just had scopes removed , i redid the stock, and slapped the 43 progress and base and mount off to range. and the 600.00 dollar mosin snipers have mismatched scopes as well not the original ones or mounts 99% of the time or all matching numbers. If you know what you are doing it is very economical and have a good source for the parts needed. And all the numbers but the scope and mount match on this rifle. Hve to disagree withthat one.JMO i can do em cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by mike radford
I think if one wants to restore a good ex-sniper, that is OK. If saving $25 is all you are saying the reason to do it is not economics IMO. A good original scope, mount, base, bolt, screws, etc. is not cheap. The optics package will generally be $300-350. A Samco scopeless rifle will be about $300 with mismatched numbers. I love these by the way and have 3 or 4. They are not ex-snipers though, just snipers without their optics package.Quote:
Originally Posted by mil-surp60
Biggest problem is that an restored ex-PU will generally not bring the money of a legit arsenal refurb PU. I have had and do have most every combination of PUs one can have. I would prefer an original, matching non-refurb. They are hens teeth.
I just like doing the work myself .Not really looking to resell them, i just keep adding them to my collection , somtimes i may sell one to get something else. I am more of a shooter type collecter guy, my concern is always bore and mechanical condition than outside appearance , i like building them accurizing them , seeing just how good i can make it shoot , occasionaly use one to hunt deer with. IF you look what it was when i started , and what it looks like now, that is satisfaction to me to restore the old warse into close as i can when they used then and trying to match their skills with mil-surp and some of my handloaded ammo. And they are crowd drawers at the local range, and my samco came all matching numbers i got mine when they first put them up for sale. Probably out of matching number ones now,But they just got in a batch of pu snipers the other day they have up for sale, sent me the flyer....:thup: