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Hi, I have a C sock, either for an 03 or an 03A3. It seems to have a rebuild stamped DAL.
Z is stamped in the recess for the magazine cut off. Faint circle P. Just before the rear sling swivel is a stamped 1311 26. Right sight has a deeper cut for the bolt handle. Also appears to be a cut out for a Lyman 48 sight.I have used it on my 03A3. What do I have ?
- Thanks, Kab
Take a closer look at the "1311 26" - you might have a former National Match stock - is there a number between the 1311 and 26?
Rick, I can't tell. I think there once was a number but it is just an indent now. If I read right DAL could have been an "unknown " inspector from 1919-1930.
-Kab
If your stock was born a 1903 rifle your 1903a3 rifle barreled action would never fit into this stock without cutting the forend ring groove. You can put a 1903 barreled action in a 1903a3 stock, but not the other way around if you intend to use the upper hand guard wood.
Nothing "unknown" about DAL - he was Daniel A. Leary, who inspected mostly National Match M1903s between roughly 1920 and the mid-1930s. I'm virtually positive the stock is a former National Match rifle stock which was mounted on the rifle with a serial number of 1311X26, which would date it to about 1929-1930.
A 1903 will not fit in an A3 stock without relieving the stock for the rear sight collar.Quote:
Originally Posted by LJUTIC
I have a 1918 Springfield barreled action and it fits perfectly into a Original pinned Smith Corona stock with no modification to the stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy A
You're missing your rear sight then
Not missing any rear sight then. If you own a 1903a3 just pull the upper wood off and look down into the Inletting of the stock and post what you see. There is no Inletting involved by removing a 1903 rifle from the original stock and dropping it into a 1903a3 stock then installing the 1903 handguard. You can't do the same to a 1903a3 into a 1903 stock without cutting it for a handguard ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy A
Thanks everyone. Rick thank you for interesting information. I bought the stock ($5) in 1960 for my 03A3 barreled action ($20). Has a 6 groove barrel. Dropped it in, bought the necessary hardware and shot it until I got a nicer looking stock.
Does the stock have any value ?
-Kab
Yes, it does. Some NM rifles were ordered with Lyman rear sights. Probably at least $200-300, but that is a guess. Pictures would help.
For the benefit of others:
--a M1903A3 barreled action with correct handguard and retaining ring, cannot be easily inserted into a M1903 stock without some fitting. The ring gets in the way;
--A M1903 will drop into a M1903A3 stock with no problem.
As posted several times, the 1903 rifle will fit into any a3 stock because all a3 stocks are also inletted for the 1903 rear sight collar along with the a3 forend ring. The 1903 Trigger guard will fit into any a3 stock too, although it will be extending out of the wood more then it would the 1903 stock. If you attend gun shows you can easily see if a 1903 rifle is installed into a a3 stock just by looking at the ring cut on either side of the stock Inletting where the sight collar & receiver meet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy A
C stock was never born on a 1903 Rifle, the only 1903 variant made new with a C stock would be a 1903A4 snipers rifle,,,
the early pre war C stock had a 1903 type recoil lug cut, and no cut for a handguard ring.
unless the stock is modified a 1903A3 or late Remington 1903 will not drop right in.
however.
a WW2 type Keystone or American Billiard C stock would already be modified to accept both...
many Pre war C stocks were modified by the Military to accept both recoil lugs.. some done nicer then others
Chuck, if you're saying Type C stocks never appeared on a "new" M1903, you're forgetting the NM rifles after about 1929; also a number of service rifles after 1935. But, I guess we've ad this discussion before! :lol:
Between 1929-1940 there were a little over 8,000 NM rifles mfg. New, and Brophy claims some new service rifles were made with C stock but are rare.