hi all
came across this pic of a mk2 that went to Finland
as you can see the back sight is missing is that how it was made from the factory, before the rear was welded on or a modification ?
thanks
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hi all
came across this pic of a mk2 that went to Finland
as you can see the back sight is missing is that how it was made from the factory, before the rear was welded on or a modification ?
thanks
Closer would be nice to see if there's any weld slop still there. Looks like there was though, so I think mod...
Is it a MK2 or a MK5 because there appears to be a pistol grip attached to the rear of the receiver? Did the Fins attache pistol grips to the rear of MK2 Stens?
yes modded mk2 with pistol grip no stock
That is simply a flat surface on which to sit the backsight. A small peg at the bottom of the backsight located centrally in the hole and the whole lot was arc welded in place. The backsight part is clearly missing in your case
pic of my mates mk5 and mk2, clearly show that the original pic is labelled wrong and is a mk5 or hybrid of their own design
the difference in colour is as odd as both by same maker
pic of the whole thing
I have one of those Rear grips myself, I took it off of a Sten I got, & threw it in the junk box!!!!
It is so shi....Er Rubbishly Made. I thought it was done either by an indian or a 'Enthusiastic Amature'!........:rolleyes:
The greenish color is probably from decades of storage in Cosmoline. It’s much sought after by M1 Garand collectors.
The wood pistol grip is interesting. It looks like something a resistance fighter would use.
It is interesting that there is evidence here of more than one of the pistol type with wood grips being in existence, phil's and tankhunter's, which suggest at least some sort of limited manufacture of the item.
Picture in thread 6 is just a perfect example of the saying '....give a man a hacksaw, a hammer and a chisel and anything is possible'. They might just as well cut the butt off rear of the hand plate part. It is just a Mk2 made into a squirt/spray gun
The front sight has also been removed and the sling attachments would make it easy to hide under a raincoat.
The grips can be made by amateur professionals with just pictures to work from. They look close but aren't factory identical. They aren't magic.
philb, are you able to post some more close up pictures of the wood handled pistol grip in post 6 off the the gun, please? I was wondering if it was something that the Finns produced as an alternative to the skeleton type pistol grip?
On Mine, it had the original backplate. That had had the Butt Stock Tubing, with the flat shoulder plate. Cut Off. I simply removed the grips, Cut off the grip retaining plate.
Made up an original profile 'T' stock assembley, & welded it onto the back plate.
It now looks as it should, a MK.II Wartime 'Pattern Sten'! :thup:
The only thing left to do (WHEN I have the time!) is to remove the finnish 'Ball' Cocking handle. & turn to profile, similar to a Wartime version cocking handle again.
Unless of course, anyone on here actually WANTS a Finnish Pattern cocking handle. & would do me a straight swap for any British Wartime Variant?.....:madsmile:
heres the link mateQuote:
Originally Posted by Flying10uk
My Sten gun
The grip certainly put the gun into perspective though. That grip was a simple local produced item.
A butt tucked under your arm makes a SMG far more stable, aimable and shoot-from-the-hipable.
One U.K. dealer was selling deactivated MK2 Stens of which some had reproduction stocks fitted and I also suspected at least some of these were ex Finn. I wonder if the reason they had repro stocks is that they came to the dealer with pistol grips similar to the example philb had.
As with all weapons. Shotgun, SMG...Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
Yes, Sir. That’s true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
There are also situations where an extended butt is a hindrance, like anytime you are inside a vehicle. That little Sten pistol or a little SMG with the butt folded could rest on your lap while you drive and be ready in seconds.
Inside the command area as well. Many there may have a pistol and still have a big butt...Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincent
Sounds like Oakland.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
But you have to get out of your vehicle to pursue the fight. Stay there for more than a second (unless the driver is going to extract you PDQ) and you're all simply caged rats. Hard lessons learned during troubled times abroad
You have a valid point. Getting out and pursuing the fight is often the best option. The problem here is it would probably land you in very deep legal hot water. That’s because the moment you step outside your vehicle (or home) and go on the offensive you lose your Castle Doctrine protection to use force (including deadly force).
You can “stand your ground” if you are on foot in a public place. That’s considered defensive.
Basically, a normal citizen here can only use force to defend. Only Law Enforcement Officers can use force offensively under some conditions.
So, for now you pretty much stuck in your vehicle if Mr. Crack Addict Carjacker shows up.
Speaking of car jackings, Ithaca made a double barrel shotgun pistol called the “Auto & Burglar.” (1922-1933) They are collector’s items now. It’s the oldest weapon I know of that was specifically made to defend against carjackers.
Highwaymen, stagecoach robbers, carjackers… the names change over the years but not much else.
Highwaymen, Stagecoach Robbers, Car Jackers Etc......These days they are known as Politicians! :lol:
Like this Vincent? It's always been one of my favorites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincent
Yeah, that’s it. It’s one of my favorites too. Most are 20 gage. They made a very few in 12 gage. Way too expensive to keep in the truck.
I see another Tax Stamp and project in the near future.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...1/madmax-1.jpg
Max is probably using an old Fox or some such common piece. We can't even contemplate those...
I believe that one is a VG Bentley.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...CLUNNJPG-1.jpg
I believe you...