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Going through some parts here and found what I believe is a Type II M1 Carbine Barrel band. These are fairly uncommon iirc. This one is missing the screw but I would assume any type 3 screw would work fine in it. Just curious if this is what I think it is and appreciate any help. TI
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../LhctaKA-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../NQUYDLu-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../awS90cJ-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../gWhiarK-1.jpg
Looks genuine, the threads look bad which is why it isn't on some carbine. They are definitely not common since they were only used a year before the type three came out. I'd naval jelly that unit. They are worth more than the other two when in decent shape.
Threads aren't buggered at all, maybe just appeared that way in the picture. I slid this on the end of my M2 and used the screw from that and it tightened down fine. I just threw it in the ultrasonic cleaner we will see how it comes out. It looked much worse in the photos but high resolution always does. I appreciate your input
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Originally Posted by DaveHH
It is Real, but beyond repair so why don't you drop it in the mail and send it my way and I can dispose of it Correctly...J/K !
I came across one I bought off this guy at the Range Club over a year ago and if you use a Reamer and you use a Correct USGI Screw it will not tighten Correctly at least that's what happened to the one I did, but I did find this and bought it and used it and to this day it has held up pretty good with a Original USGI Screw. I used a USGI Screw to make it look correct. Give this a Look and it's a Really good fix. Its works on Wood, Metal, Aluminum and even Plastic. There's even a YouTube video you can search for and look at it.
Woodmate Mr. Grip Screw Hole Repair Kit - 2498 - Do it Best
What DaveHH said +1
More than likely messed the threads up pulling the old screw out, which has/had a peened end.
Might be able to rethread but I don't know the size. Maybe try a type III screw for size?
Sure no marking on right side aka SI ?
Charlie-Painter777
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FrankNTXS
By using that,
Can the screw still be screwed back out?
CH-P777
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Hey....
I learned to read DIRECTIONS !!!!
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Use to fix worn and stripped screw holes. Use in wooden, metal, plastic items into cement, aluminum or anywhere screw holes need fixing. Just cut strip to size needed, fit lengthwise into hole, insert screw and tighten. Screw may be unscrewed if needed. (8) 3/4" x 2" strips per card.
Thank you sir, if for some reason it wont hold after cleaning I may do just that
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Originally Posted by imntxs564
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Well the screw held tension for a short time so we will see. I used the type 3 screw for reference and it was not a forced or loose fit, nor was it gritty in or out.
I have it in the cleaner now, I will update if i find any markings when it comes out
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Originally Posted by painter777
chaosrob,
1 Real
2 Good Threads
3 Why aren't you Fishing? MO one of my favorites to wet a hook.
4 That Band Not used by WRA
5 Beer and Bait
Cheers
CH-P777
Does anyone have a clue as to the origin of the Type II band on my 4.9 mil Inland? I've always thought it was original but have never been able to learn what maker used the dual slash mark.
http://www.milsurps.com/images/impor...Bandmark-1.jpg
I44,
Great picture..
I always liked the one you had showing that carbine in a Fall setting.
I own 4 Inlands in the Trans period near and above your's with T2 bands. 1 unmarked, 1 with single / and 2 like your's with double //.
Never have I heard so much as a guess as to maker.
I know Newscotlander nailed down the T2 in a pennant or triangle,
But I have no info about the / or //.
Charlie-P777
Work interferes sir, it interferes lol.
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Originally Posted by painter777
Painter; its enough to know that the band is original and has been seen on Inlands of the same period, and thanks for the info. Barrel date is 1-44. I think the serial number puts the finished carbine about March of '44. This one I'm pretty sure has been through a rebuild although there are no marks or import marks. There are other inconsistencies so I'm just calling it a rebuild or at least an 'upgrade' with re-Park at some unknown point, which is why I have never posted good detailed pictures of it. I guess I'll have to set it up and get some good pictures of it. If I ever do, I'll post them for what its worth. I do have this one that came out sharp.
http://www.milsurps.com/images/impor...rrelmark-1.jpg
Inland 5,2 mil:
http://www.milsurps.com/images/impor...DSC07713-1.jpg
http://www.milsurps.com/images/impor...DSC07712-1.jpg
http://www.milsurps.com/images/impor...DSC07711-1.jpg
Inland 5,09 mil:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC08132-1.jpg
Inland 5,06 with U flip sight. Unmarked T2 band. I need better detailed pictures, these were long ago and show no close up of the T2 unmarked band:
http://www.milsurps.com/images/impor...cture002-1.jpg
http://www.milsurps.com/images/impor...cture006-1.jpg
And a Inland 5,206, mil with no pictures yet, that has a T2 band with single / mark.
After digging a couple out, I realize I have quite a few pictures to take and update.
FWIW,
Charlie-Painter777
That is a Very Nice Carbine and looks just way better. Now I seen 2 different angles of the Slash Markings. I love that Color on the Receiver and the Blued Barrel.
The other Inland T2 band is the triangle or AS intertwined for American Swiss Co. Mine has that brand it is a 5.4 looks to be original using Chris' CC article.
Mine has a triangle on it that became visible after cleaning. There is about 2/3 of the triangle itself visible but nothing inside I can make out
Thats OK just worn down, I wondered because of the front middle hole on top. Seems like I've seen SI and the Triangle/pennant with that hole. Good to go.
Lucky you!
CH-P777
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...d83ee8f0-1.jpg
PS Random picture from goooooooglle search.
Thank you sir. it may be someone else that is lucky as I am going to throw it on ebay and someone will have a chance to get a correct part to finish their gun with any luck. I hate using that site but it certainly has the largest audienceQuote:
Originally Posted by painter777
chaos,
I too am getting ready to sell/auction off some parts on 'the bay' a friend paid to much for a mixer at a estate auction. He shot it and found it was working only as a single shot and the single spent brass case wouldn't fully eject. When I looked it over for him I found the gas cylinder was cracked. I removed the barrel, he.... being p!ssed off about it, bent that barrel in to a U over his knee. Told him we could get another barrel, but he had had it. Asked if I would auction/sell off the parts for him to try to recoup some funds. I'd prefer to list on the WTB/WTS board but he needs top dollar..... still a coin toss, but I'll help as much as I can. I'll list the WRA springtube receiver on GB for him. Wish he wouldn't have bent the barrel because I believe I could have sent it out to a C&R holder. I thought about screwing it back on and describing it as a test model for shooting around corners, but he'd bent it so far it looked like you'd shoot yourself. Not that it would shoot, but I thought it was funny.... He wasn't feeling my humor at the time. Anyway rest of the parts will go on the 'bay' as like you said bigger audience. I'm just waiting until after the 4th to list. Besides selling after the holiday, it will only be in one month billing statement.
Your band I believe was only used by Inland in the late 4,9~ to early 5,5~ mil serial block, the transitional Inlands. Hard to find if you need one. Don't need one..... they'll be all over the place.
Good Luck,
Charlie-P777
Never going to be a show piece but looks better after a little cleaning, some oil and the screw being replaced. Never going to be a show piece, that is for sure
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../yJlLakT-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../NbmjpxZ-1.jpg
Looks great now!
I put it up on ebay, thanks for all the help guys it is much appreciated. Also thank you for the beautiful pictures, that is one fine carbine
Here is my 4-44 with a type 2 barrel band.
'H.I.' sight?
PI rear sight, N front sightQuote:
Originally Posted by INLAND44
Detroit-1 Thanks for showing more of it instead of just the Barrel Band on it. Very Nice Carbine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Detroit-1
Thanks.
I think it came out much better than I expected. Enough improvement that I found it listed and bid.
If I can win it, I was thinking about maybe trying some of the Brownells Oxpho Blue Creme. I've had good luck with this product. Won't attempt a complete coverage, just enough to even it out, so it still shows enough wear to match the barrel it would go on. But gotta win it first.
CH-P777