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Has anyone ever seen a similar feed barrel action for the No. 1 Enfield action before? Aside of the British proof it also carries the German CIP proof, every part - including the wooden chest it came with - are serialized "X44". It belongs to a friend of mine in Germany, neither of us has seen such a system before.
Sub Calibre adapter?
Its like a reproduction Morris Tube, what calibre is it, off set rimfire striker or some sub centerfire calibre?
Sorry, caliber is .22 lr.
Gun Parts Corp (Numrich) made these about ten years ago. Perhaps some were exported to Germany???
I'd have loved to get one of those years back...neat toys.
Just NEVER use "high-velocity" .22LR ammo in these.
As with the H&K kits for the G-1 / FAL / L1A1, extended use of HV ammo may expand the incredibly thin, (about one millimetre), tube walls to engage the full-bore rifling. VERY hard to remove the adapter when that happens.
These things were intended primarily for use in "indoor" gallery ranges.
Note that the Brit Commonwealth ditched these adapters and went with a dedicated .22LR (single-shot) SMLE variant, the Rifle No.2.
One would be advised to use LR sub-sonics or standard velocity cartridges then Bruce, we used as army cadets the 22Lr/303's at the high school which had a 25yd outdoor range with aiming tubes and sleepered stop butts/wings think we used standard velocity from memory single load only but it was pretty much in the city so to speak would not happen today though.
I Know we have discussed this bulging issue before, I have a couple of L12A1 liners, one new build and one original (the original I suspect was ex Canadian Army).Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce_in_Oz
I adjusted (a laborious task) the new liner to fit one of my L1A1's and that's now a close fit and groups very well indeed.
We have spoken about this before, but my kit is basically new, designed primarily for the US market, with original and new parts. Pete Laidler of this parish provided considerable help with the project, a fact I and many others are very grateful for.
The new liner was Fal bore dimensions and my SP L1A1 has a new made barrel, so I suspect dosen't conform to the original Metric or Inch barrel specs, hence the knats cock adjustments required for a snug fit.
I check fitted the original unadjusted spare liner in an original L1A1 barrel and was shocked that it clattered home like throwing a sausage down the high street!
Two things came to mind, first, it must have grouped like a shotgun being so loose and second, it must have been in grave danger of bulging into the parent bore with the lack of firm support along its length.
No issues with mine so far I am pleased to say!
I remember those happy days well Cinders, here in the UK, it was bussed off to the local TA base to use the No8's at the indoor range. All together now .... I HAVE NO LIVE ROUNDS OR EMPTY CASES IN MY POSSESSION SERGEANT!Quote:
Originally Posted by CINDERS
I would imagine you used the Aussie equivalent of our old Eley .22lr Club (Army packaged as L5A1). I decant my .22 in an old L5A1 box for use down the local range (I know sad).
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Never ever had live rounds in my pockets Sergeant see--------! Just dont look at the bulges in my Jungle Gaiters-----!
Got away with a swag of 303 rounds that way there was always some duffer getting caught with a couple of rounds in their pockets then we all got a serve and threatened in the most definitive manner what would happen if it happened again then into the back of the lorries for the run back to school go for a No.2 in the dunny pop them into the pencil case and that was that homeskee.
I think you are right was the Eley packet a blue with a target on it and a full 22 round pictured as well as I vaguely remember that your talking about 1971-2 bit foggy now.
I do have a couple of stories about Northam when we went on bivouac up there couple involve the Bren, a night stalk, daytime drop off and find yer way home, our initiation to Northam camp by the regulars.
Happy days indeed Cinders, I remember the rack of No8's , L2A3's and L1A1's at the TA unit, the 14 year old version of me would have loved to walk out the door with a few of them... That said, the 49 year old me would probably still love to for that matter....
Got a few beers on the go and have my feet up Cinders, do tell the Bren gun story..
So is this a Numrich feed barrel system? Did they serialize it that way, or was that someone else?
We were at Northam on a Corporals course over the school holidays among other things we learnt was care of the Bren, clearing stoppages and barrel changes on the Bren among other stuff they were teaching us this is back in 1972 I was in my teens.
Any how ofcourse we were excited to handle a fully operation LMG which is something the average kid of the day would not have a hope of touching unless he went to a show where the army may have had one on display but that was a rarity in those days.
Anyway the scenario was you were behind the gun just yourself I gather the other chap had met his demise, the enemy (Another cadet getting his stripes as well) was standing @60 yards from you and as it was hot we were in JG's but still had the old style leather soled boot which we also paraded in, try keeping a mirror cap & heel doing this lot!
So what would happen is you were firing furiously at the enemy that was advancing on your lone position at any given point the instructor would yell out "Barrel change" at which point the cadet started to charge at you the aim was for you to get the mag off, reef the charging handle back check the breech, get to the side of the bren get the locking handle up remove the hot barrel, slide the new barrel in, lock it down then get back behind the gun whack a mag on rack the cocking handle and kill the enemy running towards you.
Its really amazing as how fast that person closes on you from such a short distance, I managed to get the new barrel in but not locked down so reasoned in my head the enemy was too close and I was not going to get the Bren operational before I was killed so decided to go down swinging I reefed the new cold barrel out held it by the flash hider and was ready to strike the would be enemy as he was within 10 feet of me.
None of us got the gun up & running to kill the cadet but it showed us in the heat of the moment you cannot let yourself go to bits some poor cadets just made a bit of a hash doing things wrong but we had only really had our introduction to the Bren that morning.
The instructor said I showed initiative for using the barrel as a club but in reality I died like the rest of the troop it was a good learning curve.
I agree excellent initiative, In hindsight though, it was probably just as well you didn't brain anyone with a Bren barrel Cinders!Quote:
Originally Posted by CINDERS
Numrich did not serialize their .22LR adapter system for the No.1 MKIII Rifles. I believe that is a local German requirement to proof test and serialize the barrel since that is a controlled part. These units are still available from time to time at e-Gunparts (Numrich). I have one which I also adapted to use in a No.4 MKI or MK2 rifle with a C No.7 MKI .22LR bolt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Promo
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