I found a Mauser Chileno Modelo 1895 - Manufacrura Loewe Berlin looks to be complete with a beautiful clear crest a bit rough but shootable. $125.00
Just another rifle I have to think about buying, I need to stop walking into gun stores.
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I found a Mauser Chileno Modelo 1895 - Manufacrura Loewe Berlin looks to be complete with a beautiful clear crest a bit rough but shootable. $125.00
Just another rifle I have to think about buying, I need to stop walking into gun stores.
It’s worth that in parts alone! Buy that sucker!Quote:
Originally Posted by usabaker
I'm going to start calling you "temptress" :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by rcathey
I was in a rush so only took this one picture, now I regret it.
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When I see a gun at that price, that’s just the way I have to look at it haha. Even if it’s not something I want for my collection, I’d buy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by usabaker
If the wood is still full length, that’s worth the price *alone*.
I don’t typically break up complete guns for resell, usually sporterized models, but you could double your money real quick on that one.
Most likely a $300 rifle that just needs a little cleaning. I probably would have bought it and I don't need one. They make excellent trade fodder for something else. Added benefit is it is an antique and these bring a premium over the others simply because they don't require background checks.
I don;t need one either, but if they still have it tomorrow when I visit the shop I will more than likely bring it home with me. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Aragorn243
It was gone when I went in today, but there was a 1903 Springfield Sniper (or so it was set up like one) they were asking over $3000.00 for it. I should have taken pictures.
Say what?? 3000 dollars or pesos? Likely a decent $300.00 rifle.
I was being kind saying $3000.00, I think it was more in the 3900.00 area. I was at lunch so I didn't have time to take pictures. I took a quick look I think it was a 1903A4 what struck me as odd is that the finish on the scope was well worn, but the rifle parkerization was super clean. I'll have to go back and take pictures, I don't think it will get sold any time soon. They also have a 1903 Remington barreled receiver with sights, upper and lower rings at a really cheap price of $600.00 :eek: I was told it was that much because it has the cut out for the Pedersen Device, fancy that...:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Calif-Steve
One of the basic checks for originality, which does not require any expert knowledge of the artefact being investigated, is:Quote:
Originally Posted by usabaker
Are wear patterns, scratches, machining marks etc. consistent?
Inconsistency is the biggest giveaway when items are modified, falsified, or downright faked.
So the inconsistency, which quite rightly caught your attention and distrurbs you, is in this case an indication that a (possibly genuine) sniper scope has been retrospectively fitted to a non-sniper rifle, in order to upvalue it in the eyes of an undiscerning buyer.
In particular, while a used rifle that showed superior performance may have been selected for alteration to a sniper configuration by fitting a scope, the scope in such a case would be new.
The other way around: fitting an well-used scope to a new rifle, strikes me as being extremely implausible as an official (i.e. arsenal/base workshop) operation.
Take some photos, post them here, and let's all have a look!
Be careful about 03A4's. Easy to fake if you are a newbie. Serial number tells you wants going on. Need a picture or two to sort this one out.
I'll stop in the shop on Monday or Tuesday and take some pictures. He had a box full of 1903 Springfield parts I want to go through anyhow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Chadwick
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Yeah I've become wiser as I learn more. But I could not afford $3K + even if I wanted it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calif-Steve
Searched for Chileno and found this thread on 03s. Not to worry, here is what I found at a gun show. Weak crest, different numbers everywhere, but it doesn't swallow a field gauge and the bore looks pretty good. It even came with a rotten leather sling.
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Patrick, inconsistency in finish/wear is usually a good indicator of something not being what it is presented as. However, one exception might be the scopes on the Remington 03-A4. Remember, these scopes were on quick-release mounts. So, although I am certain that a particular scope stayed paired with a certain rifle for a time, they were always getting replaced and swapped during repairs, reassignments, etc.. I know that when the DCM sold A4s many years ago, they were sold with the mounts, but sans scope because as I understand it the Army held onto the scopes for several more years. My point being, on 03-A4 rifles, I would not be surprised to see wear/finish inconsistency between scope and rifle. But, one sure-fire way to spot a fake A4 is where the serial # is. If you can read the entire serial number with the scope mount installed, then you have an A4. If part of the number is covered by the scope mount, then you have a fake.