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Anybody help with getting scope repairs had it done other year not used it much since came to shoot it found I couldn’t get the elevation up to 1000 yds tried always to zero , finally took top of and found the elevation screw as been shortened to what it should be according to Peters book help required please
As best I can make out from your comment, if you are using a replica "T" or bracket or both, it could be your set up is not properly done so that there is insufficient travel in the lead screw to both zero the scope and have full adjustment up to 1000 yards. What do you mean by the lead screw having been shortened? It is shorter than the windage lead screw of course, but there should be no need to shorten it from the original.
Thank for replying
I zeroed the rifle at 100yds spot on trouble is the turret was then set at 400 on the dial so I reset the dial back to 100 mark on drum fired rifle spot on only trouble is when yo turn turret to the 1000 or number ten on dial it only goes up to the 800 or 8 mark, so being me I took the top off removed screw and measured it and the length of thread is shorter than stated in Peters book and it looks to have been shortened on the thread don’t know why , what I need is a new elevation screw making to the correct length , as for rifle I presume it’s ok the mounts not original it’s central to barrel it’s been on another No4t and it makes no difference the elevation screw is just the same you can’t get it passed 800 or 8 mark what I need is some one to make new screw to correct length
Alright, so your lead screw may have been cut down from a windage screw, but not done correctly. That may be all the problem, or it may not be.
The point about the setting up of the mounts is called collimation; that is the alignment or not, of the axis of the bore with the axis of the mounts and therefore of whatever scope is in the mounts.
The two axes are not supposed to be parallel in the vertical plane, only in the horizontal (windage).
In the vertical plane there must be an "angle of declination" built into the mounts so that the axes of the bore and scope meet and cross at a point determined by the trajectory of the bullet and the distance to the target.
If your 100yd zero is still on at say 400 or above, your collimation is probably fine and you just need a replacement lead screw. Someone else may know where you can get one.
Think I’ll start looking for rocking horse poo , rang Fulton’s yes we can do it then rang couple weeks later think it was Robert I spoke to his answer no we don’t repair them his men in denied ever saying they did told contact RWS did that by email as stated on his webb site says to do no reply as yet. At the moment a guy looking at gun probably sell it to him and put rest up for sale back to shooting proper guns
Delboy if you have a drawing of the lead screw, and require another to be made. Try to contact David he maybe able to make this for you. Contact us - Crispin Engineering
PM Roger Payne, he may be able to help
Give me the length of your range lead screw...
Top to bottom and length of the thread, bottom to the shoulder.
However, is this a repro scope or a real one??
I have lead screws for original No32 Mk1 & 2 scopes, but as Warren intimates they can vary somewhat. If you have the dimensions of yours I can see what I have that might do.
Same thought here Roger.
I have lead screws for the 1,2,3 and some repro's, HOWEVER, we do not know if the scope is an original or a repro.
Some elevation/range lead screws are not much more than one or two threads.
The poster stated he removed the cap and checked the lead screw which makes me suspect it is a repro scope.
Removing the cap off an original can sometimes be a bit of a chore with the sealing compound, several layers of paint and the aligning pins which leads me to believe we are dealing with a repro scope here.
If the poster can confirm what type of scope he has it will make it easier to determine the problem.
Roger / Warren
The scopes not a repo if required I can remove screw and post it off to either of you. If you text me an address I can remove the screw and send it to you as I’m not using it till next year my number is 07971417790, or I will take it out and measure it . Ps ignore comment about shooting modern guns been a bit cheesed off with repairs to it
Delboy I know Roger can repair/ refurbish the scopes, he does an excellent job. Might be worth this time to refurbish the scope ready to do another 70 years service.
I've PM'd you Delboy. Feel free to drop either Warren or I a line, we will both do our best to help if we can. I wouldn't request you send me your lead screw but I have asked for some dimensions to be taken from it should you decide to secure a replacement from me.
I am not an expert in No.32 scopes.
But before doing anything . Try to setup your
Rifle in a rig. Level the barrel very accurate.
Then control that the scope is complete in level as well.
Even a small misalignment will cause that your leadscrew be out of
Adjustment range.
I have mounted several repro mounts (mostly Accumounts)
In ALL cases the front pad was a little too high and make the scope
Tilt a little backwards. As fare I can see it will shove up in a problem
As you described.
In All my cases I have to make new front pads myself .
Maby this is a stupid adwise.
Some Expert can tell if it is or not.
JSNE
Roger if you want I can send the complete scope just need address as where to post it
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Roger I can send you complete scope if that would help just text me address to 07971417790 and I will post itQuote:
Originally Posted by Roger Payne
Hi Delboy. I don't actually service scopes as a commercial service, I am just lucky to have acquired rather a lot of original but battered & incomplete scopes over the years. Consequently I have had various internal parts remanufactured & have had a fair amount of practice now in getting the things apart & back together again. I must say in this respect PL was a great source of advice, as have been Warren & Valley Sniper. However, I only work on my own scopes as I do not want to have to carry the can back if something major goes pear shaped on somebody else's pride & joy, but am happy to supply you with a replacement lead screw if you wish. If you can give me the dimensions I mentioned it will increase the likelihood that the lead screw will be a satisfactory fit.
P.S. Just received your email & have responded.
Hi again
If won’t help you to get a longer leedscrew.
A No. 32 scope is not like a standard “huntingscope”
It has a scalestop i both end.
When you turn the rangedrum clockwise and is
Stop on 8. It means it have reach its end of trawling
To correct this issue you need to create more space
Between the contact points in the rangedrum.
A longer bolt. Is just longer in the wrong end.
I dont think a. Original scope will have this issue
So if I. Where you I will cortroll the mount once more
Werry carefully.
Jsne
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I thought I remembered you jsne. ;)
Hi all
Just back home pleasant surprise received new elevation screw from Roger will be fitting this tomorrow, jsne I did what you said, on Sunday I levelled the barrel off checked with spirit level , put the level in scope rings it was out it needed lifting a tad to bring everything in line will tackle this problem tomorrow . Thanks all for inputs will let you know out come.
If the rings are parallel with the bore the setup is not correct. The two axes must coincide. I think Peter's books give the details.
Hi all
Sorry not got back to you all on the progress of the scope as I’ve been laid up with the dreaded flu , I’ve fitted new screw shimmed the rear ring up everything level barrel with scope bore sighted it and can now go through the full rang 0 to 10 on drum just now I need to get on range as I feel my neighbours may complain if I start popping chimney pots off , will get back soon as.
Anny news about this?
Jsne