Can anyone tell me the approximate date that a Winchester carbine ser. # 6468001 was built?
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Can anyone tell me the approximate date that a Winchester carbine ser. # 6468001 was built?
Thank you
12/28/1944
How about Winchester carbine #5715372 ?
Thank you.
06/09/1944Quote:
Originally Posted by vintage hunter
Good morning,
how about these US M1 .30cal Carbine?
Winchester #1245700
Standard Products #1998952
Thank you!
Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
09/30/1943 for the Winchester. I can't help you any on the STD PRO. - BobQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir T. Woolridge
Not much help on the SP, but somewhere between July and Sept 1943Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir T. Woolridge
Keep in mind those Winchester dates are dates that the serial # was applied to the receiver, not the date the carbine was completed.
Good morning gentlemen,
Could someone provide a date for Winchester ser# 5589098
Thank you very much!
Perhaps someone could just post the page of dates for date stampings or maybe by month?
Something like this maybe helpful:
Jan 44 5,XXX,XXX to 5,XXX,XXX
Feb 44 5,XXX,XXX to 5,XXX,XXX
Try USCARBINECAL30M1.com.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffTCT
Per that website, they list your rifle as being manufactured between February and November of 1944.
Lots of people want a closer interpretation where one is available and Winchester is a maker you can get closer on, but yes as stated previously, the date given is not at all the date of assembly.
The s/n was placed on the receiver 01/27/1944.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffTCT
Thank you Very Much USGI ... greatly appreciated!
Glad I could help. Welcome to the Forum! - BobQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffTCT
I have a win-13 Garand that was produced in the week of 20 April 1945, were WRA carbines still be made then and if so what would the serial range be? Hopefully, if still in production it’s not in an M2 range as I would like to look for an example to create a set.
@cpc, Winchester Carbine production ended in August 1945. According to Ruth & Duff's Carbine owners guide the Approximate Serial number range produced during April, May and June 1945 was 6491000-6596000
Of all the great work Ruth did, that chart is not included. If it wasn't printed on non-absorbent enameled paper, it might be useful as toilet paper.Quote:
Originally Posted by W5USMC
In your generous effort to help, why didn't you include info from the disclaimer preceding the table?
Oh OK firstflabn, "All listed serial numbers should be considered to be approximations and are not exact" although I kinda figured the word Approximate would have made that clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by firstflabn
@cpc, Here is some info that is more exact, On 20 April 1945 the following serial numbers were applied to Winchester Receivers 6578421-6579800, note that this is when the serial# was applied to the receiver not when the carbine was complete.
When it was assembled is what would matter more, IMO, and that's not known. Unless you wanted a specific date to coincide with your birthday or other significant date, getting the date it was stamped doesn't seem very revealing or important. The month of stamping, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by W5USMC
A serial number stamped on a receiver did not make it a rifle. Normal assembly was a month to as much as three months down the road depending on conditions. Most were done with in the month after stamping of the serial number.
Thank all of you for the comments. I didn’t realize the SNA numbers had been discovered for carbines too. The actual date for the Garand is 23 Apr 45 according to Canfield’s book. It would be great if that information is available, however, if I have pushed my luck to far I understand. Regards and thanks again for the previous information.
The Winchester Carbine date of stamping stuff was published in one of the Carbine books, maybe it was Harrison's--or Canfields. But that's where some are quoting from. The page was posted on CMP years back.
Not sure about Harrison or Canfield's books, but the receiver serial # stamping info is published in WB III and CCNL 337.Quote:
Originally Posted by tenOC
Thank you W5USMC.
I would not trust any information in Harrisons book on carbines. The vast majority has become outdated and he refused to change and update it before he passed on. I have not found any information in Bruce Canfields books on this too. Just the info that was found in the Winchester records.
I haven't observed Harrison's book myself, but was going from memory of what someone posted on CMP about 8 years or so ago when I first learned about Winchester having recorded their stampings and it being published in some Carbine book, which would've been a good while before WWIII was released. If so, that might be something he would've gotten right since it should be a straight copy over. Not that it positively was his book.
I just looked, and I bought WB III in 2013, so that's pretty close. - Bob
Does anyone have an approximate manufacture date for WRA M1 Carbine # 4193414? Thanks in advance.
Welcome to the forum! My information shows that s/n as being within a range assigned to National Postal Meter. :dunno: Others may be able to help. - Bob