What is the going sell price for a L59A1 ?
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What is the going sell price for a L59A1 ?
That is the 50 million dollar question. The last breed in the pack is how it used to be known.........so to capture one would IMHO be in the £500 pound mark, but I'll leave it to someone who perhaps has bought one recently. All I can say is, they are as rare as rocking horse poo!
My adage has always been "If you like it, and it shoots well, go for it" the sheer provenance will be the attraction!
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Originally Posted by Gil Boyd
I'm not sure an L59 would meet both of those criteria.
Certainly not the second one :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Alan de Enfield
Navy arms had a number of L59A@s when they imported the batch of L42 and L39 7.62mm rifles. I included two L59s in the group I purchased. They were in rough shape but they were there and of interest and I got the best that were there. The Manager told me that while they had sold a few, the bulk was purchased by a military academy for drill.
one for sale on Milweb in the UK for GBP1500
Weapon Accessories and Spares For Sale MILWEB Classifieds
:lol::lol: general term for a training rifle chaps! :madsmile:
Didn't find the L59 on the site mentioned, but die see lot's of very sad deactivated firearms. The Mauser C96 for example; what a waste!
I wonder if anyone has an L59A1 on their certificate Shaun?
In the UK it falls between the licencing gaps, I would say "deactivated by other means" Licencing probably wouldn't agree.
The trouble is, obviously it can't be proofed for sale, so an RFD can't sell it on, also as a non operational firearm, it can't be a Sec 1 gun, as it's a non functional firearm, i.e incapable of discharging a fart!
Question is, what the hell is it classified as?
The only clear cut legal UK route for the L59A1 is deactivation unfortunately....
I seem to remember (many moons ago) a (UK) collector had an L59 and the Police took it off him as an illegally owner firearm (no deactivated correctly).Quote:
Originally Posted by mrclark303
Long story short :
As the Military person who had overseen the L59 programme Peter Laidler was called into court as a 'Expert Witness', PL convinced the court it was "more deactivated" than the Deact laws required and the collector got his 'gun' back.
I discussed with PL the 'Skeleton' training rifles which would appear to fall into the same bracket, for the ones I bought from an auction, the Auction house had checked with the three surrounding Police Forces and all had said it was a 'non firearm' and did not need to go onto an FAC.
Peter did offer to act as a 'Expert Witness' should I ever be 'picked up' having them and taken to court.
Same here, I have a few cutaway Firearms...
All regarded as non Firearms by my Police force after checking.
The only advice I was given was to purchase them through an RFD (paper trail covering your arse) and check myself that no pressure baring parts were intact and reusable.
Just common sense due diligence really.
I haven’t seen one for sale lately, so clueless on today’s value. Inexpensive back in 1994 and mailed to my front door.
As an FAC holder I wouldn't want to put that to the test......!Quote:
Originally Posted by mrclark303
Would a RFD sell one though, now in 2020, as it can't be UK proofed and it can't have a UK de-act proof stamp without being further butchered...?
The L59A1 is a case aside, as it falls foul regarding it being an official deactivation. That means it has to be deactivated to whatever the latest revolving door specifications the Home office decide is required this week, in order to sell it to the public.
Whereas dedicated instructional cutaway Firearms are regarded differently. They aren't deactivated, they are not Firearms, but classroom pieces..... And I would venture, works of art!
It's a real shame, I would love an L59A1, but I don't want one that's so butchered it won't even cock!
I bought a dozen or so from Navy Arms back in the mid-late 90's. They were cheap at $59 each if memory serves. I cleaned them up a bit and sold them for $100 each. All were in decent shape and I did keep one for my personal collection of No.4 variants which I still have.
Brian what mag. did they come with ? Are the Mags. marked in any way and did they have any openings cut in them to show the user that there were rounds in them ? I just purchased one 3 days ago and hope to have it arrive in tomorrow's mail .Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Dick
The one I have has a standard No.4 magazine with no modifications. The serial number stamped on is from the L59A1 serial range but not matching to the rifle.
On my example the mag is DP marked and functional.
Received my L59A1 in todays post . It looks to be in very good condition , seems to be used very little after conversion . It's serial number is 0184 . The receiver is stamped U.S. Property as made by Savage Arms . It did not come with a mag. but should not be hard to find and add to it . Did all of the L59A1 made using of the MkII forearms ? I hope I did not over pay for it at $200.00 with shipping .
Great price all in mate, should have been twice that as they are as rare as Hens teeth, stick it on the wall;)
Saw one for sale a few months ago, didn't sell at $200.00 USD. I'd have bought it but have enough already.
Update. Got a Long Branch L-59 this week. Checked my other one, and it's a 1942 Savage No. 4 Mk1 (no star) and according to the serial number list is one of the last no star made.