Hey fellows,
Its me again, just seen a M1 with the receiver marked as Inland, magcatch mark as EI, mag release mark as M, the rest of the parts with no marks incluiding the stock, barrel and internals. What do you think?
Thank you in advance :thup:
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Hey fellows,
Its me again, just seen a M1 with the receiver marked as Inland, magcatch mark as EI, mag release mark as M, the rest of the parts with no marks incluiding the stock, barrel and internals. What do you think?
Thank you in advance :thup:
Me thinks it has some commercial parts on and in it.
The trigger housing has the correct marking for a late part. Inland has some very light part stampings. The recoil plate will probably have a very faint DI on the hidden part for Dayton Racquet/Inland.
You have to really look closely. The marks are probably there you just aren't seeing them. I remember when BQ walked me through my Winchester, I had not seen anything and then there was light.
"EI" is probably Eaton Pond for Inland. The M on the mag catch is for not a makers mark.
Howdy Flythecat.Quote:
Originally Posted by flydthecat
I think as you.
Regards
Eddie
The rear sight is very likely the original. As DaveHH mentioned, it says INLAND on the RH side of your trigger housing. Inland operating slides are usually marked on the inside of the "box." It looks like the barrel has been changed or "monkeyed" with. Does it have the "strange length" like your other carbine? - Bob
Hello Dave,Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveHH
To find stock, barrel and internal parts marks I used as support my cel camera zoom 5X, so Im 99% pretty sure theres no more marks than the others that I had mention. In fact as you see in the pictures the color metal from the receiver is different than the other parts, the parts and the stock for my point of veiw seems to be pretty newer than the receiver.
Regards
Eddie
Hello Bob.Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
Dang I cant find the Inland mark in the trigger housing you mentioned.
The 6th picture is from the internal of the "box".
This carbine isn´t mine I would like to buy it ofcourse if it whorth it.
I couldnt measure the barrel but I can tell that for sure it isnt short as my M1 barrel.
Have a nice weekend
Eddie
Eddie, your 6th picture is of the barrel flat not the inside of the box of the operating slide. You need to remove the slide to see inside of the box.Quote:
Originally Posted by EddieM
Eddie, it's pretty faint on yours. Look where I've put the yellow oval. :thup: - BobQuote:
Originally Posted by EddieM
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With all due respect Eddie, you missed the Inland mark on the trigger housing. Inlands are finished as an assembled unit. An Inland barrel and receiver will have an almost black finish and will have a shadow at the point where the barrel enters the receiver, this is where the band is moved to before the final finish is applied. The top of the receiver will also be sand blasted and have another shadow visible on the side where the rough surface and smooth surfaces meet. The number is a #5.4 which is a mid to late 1944 carbine. The trigger housing Inland mark is vertical which makes it probably original to the gun. You may just have a mostly matching carbine that has had the barrel replaced. The stock has what appears to be a cartouche just forward of the oval slot. It could be a Winchester stock as many Win stocks have zero markings in the left side cut out. Regardless, the checkering makes it a nice oddity and a zero collectable. The barrel definitely doesn't look like an Inland. They have a swaged on gas cylinder and it has a very distinctQuote:
Originally Posted by EddieM
looking seal at the front of the gas cylinder. Your barrel is probably from some other company or place. Not all barrels are marked beyond a proof mark . NPM proofs with a single punch mark. A Winchester barrel can have a faint W and a very faint Win Proof. Have you disassembled the trigger group and checked the hammer, sear and recoil plate? My inland is also a 5.4 and has a recoil plate mark that is almost invisible.
That stock doesn't appear to be Walnut, unless it's been bleached. Looks like a M2 style stock.
And by blowing this picture up and adding some light it looks as though there might be 2 letters markings about 1" down from the gas cylinder / piston opening.. Right down at the very bottom of the picture.
https://www.milsurps.com/attachment....3&d=1615589594
Eddie,
Did you look on the barrel area that the bayonet band is covering ?
A picture of the barrel just behind the front sight 'Might' help
Hello Wayne,Quote:
Originally Posted by W5USMC
I cant do that, the M1 isnt near to me now :bash:
Regards
Eddie
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Hello Bob,Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
In the yellow oval I just see kind of little square, what does that mean?
Regards
Eddie
Eddie,
I don't know how much they want for it,
But just the Inland Receiver is worth over $300+ US
A stripped of parts Inland trigger housing could add about a extra $100 US. The Op slide if a real GI (which I believe it is) add another $75+ US.
IF, the barrel is a commercial made one, it could bring another $100+ US
That's $575 minimum just for those parts. I've seen just the Receivers sell for near that to the right buyer.
Eddie: The inland mark on the trigger housing is a character of the old Inland building. Like a rectangle shaped house with a hump in the roof. They marked the different type by placing the shape in different ways. The late ones had the little house standing on its side. like yours.
Eddie, Here's a late Inland trigger housing with the logo stamped deeper. - Bob
Attachment 115815
Hola Carlito,Quote:
Originally Posted by painter777
Youre right, I removed the stock pad and the wood seems to be bleached and pretty newer than the receiver.
Ffs, youre right too about the gas cylinder, it seems to be some kind of letters or marks, unfortunatelly now Im not close to that M1 to double check, my rookie vision is killing me :banghead:
Yeah I look that barrel area, I moved the bayonet band side to side, in fact this is the bayonet band.
Hola CarlitoQuote:
Originally Posted by painter777
Hes asking 1k
Hasta la vista compadre :beerchug:
Thank you DaveQuote:
Originally Posted by DaveHH
Regards
Eddie :)
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Hello Bob,Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
That mark is more clear and deep, thank you :beerchug:
The inland bldg on its side is mid production, not late. Late production is upside down. That barrel band looks like a cut off type 3. That gas cylinder doesn't look GI to me. It could be either an Erma/german barrel of one of the Howas. I'm not sure which. The stock is a beech M2 stock. IF it is marked, and many were not, it will be in the sling bevel or on the top left front of the stock right up by the barrel channel with an SA.
Except it hasn't been cut off. I don't recognize those markings, do you? My hand stamped 6.9 Inland came with a Type 5 trigger housing, but know it could've had a Type 6. - BobQuote:
Originally Posted by jimb16
Inland started out with a horizontal logo ( the old Wright Brothers building ) then went vertical towards the latter part of 43 ( mid-production as stated ) and after that point a mix of horizontal and vertical logos were seen. The M2 housings were stamped upside down as also stated.
Hello Bob,Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
I thought those kind of rear sights were only for comercials.
Regards
Eddie
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Hello Dave,Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveHH
Thank you for your post, I think Im paying my rookie bill.
Regards
Eddie
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Hello fellows,
I think M1 is a real cool gun, I red theres a lot fake M1s, Im just trying not to buy a fake one.
I am an aficionado of guns and history too, thats why I love old guns.
Today I will see an other Inland with no checkered stock, wish me luck :D
Regards
Eddie :slap:
Eddie, Here's a couple pics of the rear sight on a 5.4 Inland I used to have. It was original to the carbine. - BobQuote:
Originally Posted by EddieM
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Stock checkering can be "fixed" a bit. Our painter buddy (Charlie) told me to just wrap some duct tape around this one, but I decided to sand it off instead. Even he thought it turned out pretty good! ;) - BobQuote:
Originally Posted by EddieM
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Hello Bob,Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
Thank you to share the pics.
What does 5.4 means?
Eddie :)
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Awsome news, tx Bob :beerchug:Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
Regards
Eddie :)
Five million, four hundred thousand...and someQuote:
Originally Posted by EddieM
5.4 or 5.4M is just short for the s/n range of 5,400,000 :cheers: - BobQuote:
Originally Posted by EddieM
Hello Jim,Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
Thank you for the feedback :beerchug:
Hello Bob,Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
Thank you :beerchug: