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Cellphones being transported. Driver is ex SAP Special Task Force. Passenger following orders like a champ and cool enough to have the fine motor skills to operate a phone. Perpetrators ran away and left their rammed vehicle. Two times AK47 recovered as far as I know.
Staying in the vehicle and getting away from the ambush site is good. Ramming to disable also. Only de-bussing when vehicle was disabled by final ram.
Watched it on the TV before I saw this post man he kept his cool our armoured cars that are used for cash collection and delivery have shielded gun ports so return fire from the guys in the back may have given the would be robbers something to think about with lead coming their way.
Hope he knows a good double glazing salesman......goes to show good quality ballistic glass can even stop Klashnikov rounds fired by inexperienced attackers.
I know, the whole time I was watching this video I was thinking I sure hope they don't go for the tires! That's the Achilles heel of any vehicle, you stop its ability to roll or to roll quickly, then it's a sitting duck. Even tanks ain't much good with no tracks ha haQuote:
Originally Posted by Gil Boyd
Toyota Land Cruiser. No crew in the back. And no gun ports or opening windows. So only way would have been to open a door if the wanted to return fire. Bigger CIT vehicles have ports though.Quote:
Originally Posted by CINDERS
When they stop a vehicle the petrol or explosives come out so moving is good. Blast it open or set it alight to make the guys inside open the doors.Quote:
Originally Posted by jond41403
My bad the reflection of the rear window made it look like there were personnel in the back our cash trucks have 3 personnel 1 driver and 2 collecting thing is they appear to have the S & W 38 Spl side arms which I suppose being the good guys you would not want over penetration in a public shoot out.
Over here there could be an escort vehicle for protection. Depends on what they are doing and carrying. And a huge variety of weapons ranging from revolvers to semi-auto rifles like in the video.
The problem is that they are up against select fire weapons flowing in across our borders from higher up in Africa and also stolen and sold police and military weapons like R5's - the police didn't pay their supplier so are now back on a paper based system for controlling their own weapons. And the odd old 'struggle' weapon.
And the evidence system was also shut down due to non-payment so to handle casings, dna, etc gathered from a scene afterwards is also now problematic.
JD,Quote:
Originally Posted by jond41403
I'd assume they use a Run Flat tire, either Sealed rigid foam or the steel inner band types. I believe they are now making many new versions of bullet proof rims also.
All the 'Rappers' are using them :lol:
Driver calm, cool and looking for pay back.
Anyone see the guy standing on the freeway that shot the passengers window?
Pretty brazen..... Wish the driver would have drove over him.
Need Alexa or phone app: "Call Josh"
This reminds me of driving the Cass Corridor in Detroit years ago.
Do they have access to special run-flat tires? All the run flat tires I have ever seen are not great and can only get you a very short distance,but they probably have the real deal that can withstand a lot more for armored vehicles I'm sure. I thought about the run flats, but I didn't think they would stand up to a 7.62x39. I bet armored vehicles use similar grade run-flat tires similar to what's on the beast, the limo that the president uses. I have never used run flat tires myself so I don't have any experience with them, but I have always heard not to bother with them ,that they are all pretty much junk. I believe a lot of BMW's and newer cars come with them from the factory nowadays. That driver certainly did keep his cool though!
JD,
Some have steel plate inside the sidewalls and a circular plate that's attached to the rim or inside the tread, with the rubber molded around it. I'm sure there are others. Guess it all depends on budget.
Thank you for that charlie, I did not know that. Stick around here and you'll at least learn something new everyday!
Passenger was apparently on his 4th day on the job. Specifically with the driver to learn.
Ours were made by Michelin for our Grizzly and Cougar six wheel armor vehicles...and the run flat is a solid rubber core for the inside of the tire. There's a bit of air for cushion but the core is solid rubber. Unless you blow pieces out it'll run. The bullet proof tires are cute, like layers of rubber bands overlaid. A bullet passes through and they still leak but slowly. If you have true run flats, they'll take whatever ball ammo sent their way. 7.62x39 won't make any difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by jond41403
Death threats against the driver.
Leo Prinsloo, who foiled heist in Pretoria, under protective guard after death threats | News24
Per the article his associates are investigating. If I was one of the criminals involved I would be seriously considering a career change and emigration.
Notice the guy standing on the edge of the road, then fired hitting the passengers window.
I didn't catch the time, but was after the driver turned around and warned 'Be ready for fire'.
Then, IMO the new hire will have what it takes to do the job after some more action.Quote:
Originally Posted by MSW2
Or if his name and address gets out nd family is in danger, he'll get out.
If here in the States, both driver and passenger would have already been 'outed' and having to hide out.
Interesting link, Thx MSW2 :thup:
come on over down south...won't even have to give their names.Quote:
Originally Posted by MSW2
https://fb.watch/5qshbqw3li/
More footage and the story and background.
Passenger doesn't seem to be in any rush to get out of the vehicle at the end.
Stepping through what transpired and some interesting info on vehicle armour.
Failed Cash In Transit Heist After Action and Ballistic Analysis - YouTube
Thanks for posting that. It was very interesting to see the walkaround and explanations.
That's some good quality armour.
I must say that the sales guy obviously has total confidence in his product; when sitting in the vehicle to receive a shot with glass that's already been hit.
Although you wouldn't want multiple impacts on the same spot! It certainly did the job for the crew.
5.56 was a ruthless round on that attack!!
looks like YouTube pulled the first video down.
We wouldn't want to encourage racial profiling you see - either positive or negative. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ssgross