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Hello everyone.
Is there such a thing as reproduction Canadian TP mounts? It would be a mission but I’d like to try recreate one of this rare no.4ts that had the Lyman alaskan mounted to it.
If not are there any blueprints of the mount available? Maybe I can get one machined and maybe build a few while I’m at it.
Thanks for your time,
Kov
I'm afraid I don't know of anything available currently, but there used to be. My late machinist made me up a small quantity of the bases (around a couple of dozen IIRC) & just three sets of the rings. This was many years ago, & I'm afraid they all sold long ago. I had the bases made when there was a small batch of original TP scopes & rings available for sale on the market via the late Pete Bloom. He picked them up in Belgium, & I gather they had been salvaged when either Belgian or Dutch (I think it was the latter) TP rifles were being destroyed. I think someone else has also marketed bases more recently, but I cannot recall who it was. Maybe someone else may be able to help here....
PS.......I don't have drawings I'm sorry to say.
There was a chap in Italy making and selling the base for the 32 TP but they turned out to be just a copy of the G & H and were the wrong angle and size
They would not fit the 32 TP rings and clamp.
Are you talking about this? https://www.cainarms.com/product/key...nser-foregrip/Quote:
Originally Posted by Kov1985
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ispenser-1.jpg
Is there a big difference in Canadian TP?
You just inspired me. I have a few old unusable cut-back barrels I might have to turn in to TP holders now. A towel bar would be nice too.
Very tactical! HahaQuote:
Originally Posted by ssgross
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Thanks for the the reply. It sounds like there is such a thing, or at least there was. Gives me a bit of hope of at least one day finding one. Too bad about not having drawings. If I get one of those mounts and rings, I’ll look at creating a CAD file or something like it to make it available for anyone to get machined.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Payne
I think it was the fellow in Italy that I was thinking of......although I never had a look at any of his products. My late machinist worked from my original rifle. He was very much of the old school, making pencil sketches on odd bits of paper. I still have some of his notes that he made on reproducing Purdey mounts for the SMLE, but not the TP sketches that he made.
all new tacticool tacitcrap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kov1985
This could be another textbook case of myself taking things too far, but if any of you fine chaps actually own a no.32 TP mount that holds the Lyman alaskan on a Canadian T, be it original or otherwise, be willing to help a brother out?
What I propose is to converse over pm or email. I’ll take an image of say, the mount and/or rings system, draw on the image dimensions “x-y-z”, someone could take measurements and simply answer x equals this, y equals this.
Hopefully I could end up at a place where I have drawings with all of the angles and dimensions I need to work with and produce it myself. If it’s successful, and mount works, I could get an auto cad file done up on it and share it freely to whoever is mad enough to pursue this like me.
No drama if not, but if anyone is willing help me out, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks again for your time,
Kov
If you can give it a few months (I mean like maybe June onwards) I should be able to get the measurements that you want. However, at present I have so many jobs that need attention that I dare not take on another. If somebody else offers help before then I'd go for it....
Thanks mate, I appreciate it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Payne
I bought one of the Italian replicas when they were on eBay, just for interest. I thought they were well done, but can't speak to their dimensional accuracy.
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Cheers big fella, that’s very helpful, thanks for the reply. That’s very different from the original. Can you tell me what ring system it takes? It looks to accept a genuine griffen Howe just by looking atQuote:
Originally Posted by Surpmil
it.
Also is anyone able to tell me if the side of a no.4 receiver inherently runs true to the bore. I’m looking to begin drafting some drawings on this mount and that seems like the first thing to consider. Did the base ever have to milled at certain angle or eve shimmed like some of the no.32 pads had to be?
I have an original TP scope sitting next to me, with original rings, mount, and base, in a correct but unmatched Canadian scope can. I'm trying to sell it for an ungodly amount of money to a gentleman in Canada, we are still negotiating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kov1985
I'm happy to measure or photo whatever you'd like. Shoot me a PM. We can also put the info on this thread, so it's available for the next guy.
Regards,
Trog
Pm sent mate cheers
Personally I doubt it very much. The only surfaces that I would rely on as having a consistent relationship to the bolt-way (NOT the bore), would be the rear sight axis pin holes, but even those I wouldn't put much faith in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kov1985
Re: your earlier question, I believe that reproduction C67 rail would accept a standard G&H commercial mount, but can't be certain now.
I would have thought that if the body side wall was perfectly true to the bore then H&H would not have needed to machine the area for the front body pad on the 4T conversions.....
The depth of the milled flat differs somewhat from rifle to rifle, suggesting a degree of variation.
Indeed, and it's worth recalling also that the barrelled bodies/receivers were at that point reportedly mounted in a jig whose only control surface was the bore itself: apparently no surface of the body/receiver was assumed to square and true to the bore!
I’m currently in the process of drafting engineering drawings of this thing with the kind help of Troglodyte. Can anyone give me any details on the mounting screws and pins used? Their length, diameter, thread etc?
Thanks everyone
There turned one of those up for sale on eBay: Enfield Sniper Scope No. 32 Trade Pattern (TP) Canadian/British Lyman Alaskan | eBay
Not my auction nor did I look any closer at it to determine whether original or fake, just wanted to point it out since OP was looking for one.
There was going to be a copy of the base and rings for the 67 scope.
I had one and sent it to someone in NZ who was going to copy it and do the cnc program so copies could be made.
The ONLY reason I allowed it out of my hands was his father and I had dealt sniper kit over many many years and the late father was a prince of a man.
I did not know the kid was hard into "recreational pharmaceuticals" and the scope mount went to pay for some of his habit.
I thought the mount and rings might show up in the recent auction of the fathers collection, but alas it did not and the kid disavows any knowledge of it.
So, bottom line is: there is a 67 mount and ring set out there somewhere and the name of the party is available "on request" in case you get offered one.
If the moderators feel this should be removed, please do so.....
Do you have the numbers from it, or photos Warren?Quote:
Originally Posted by Warren
The disavowal of any recollection may be honest enough; drugs do that I hear.