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Greetings All
I need help from the group to see if anyone has, or has pictures of, L42A1s with 1973, 1976, 1978, and 1980 body dates. The only 1980 body date examples I have found are suspect and I was hoping someone might have some authentic pictures.
I could also use XL42E1 (and/or XL39E1) photos as all I have is the example that was for sale at a show a year or two ago.
Many thanks!!
I've had 1973 and 1980 L42s through here in the past but don't have photos. The markings on the 1980 L42A1 are different and might be construed as dubious but the example you saw may have been correct. I've never seen an L42 dated 1976 or 1978. I still have one dated 1975.
I have an XL39E1 of my own that I can do photos of. Tell me exactly what you want and I'll get it done.
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Originally Posted by Brian Dick
Thanks Brian
I just need a nice clear body markings shot of the left side wall flat, my rifle is attached as an example. Attached also are the two pic's of the 1980s I have. The Maltby might be real, the other I doubt
Send me an email to bdlltd@bellsouth.net when you get a chance.
If memory serves, the butchered one missing the front pad looks more like the one I had through here for export several years ago. It was definitely legit.
I also have an XL39E1 I can get some photos of once I’m back from a trip if you’d like an additional example
Brian, I remember being told by someone that the 1980 L42's bore large engraving, but I must say on looking at Lance's photo's I am uncomfortable about the last shown rifle, even though it has large engraving. Specifically, it doesn't appear to have had the milled flat machined for the front pad to sit on, & consequently the pad, although now missing, looks as though it was set back slightly. I know Peter has said that permission was given during the setting up of 4T's for this to be allowed, but I've never seen this feature in practice on a genuine 4T or L42. The rear pad also looks like it has been fitted using recycled screws, & not that long ago. Additionally, the butt socket looks to have been scrubbed, at least as far as I can see from the photograph. I think this particular example is a wrong 'un.........or should we say 'a tribute rifle'.....? What do you think?
I agree with everything you said Roger. All I can say is the one that was through here for export had the large markings like the second one in the photos Lance posted. It's the only one I've ever seen. I wish I'd had time to photograph many of the oddball rifles I had through here when I was an ITAR registrant brokering import/export for many clients around the world. Just getting the job done was running me ragged and the monetary reward for the work was menial. Now I just break my back repairing stuff. I've been trying to morph more into sales for years, but people keep contacting me, and I seldom say "no".
Story of all our lives. Where was digital camera pics when we needed them. The neat and odd stuff that's slipped through our fingers...never to be seen again.Quote:
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Another give away is the engraving.Quote:
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Enfield used a particular Taylor Hobson font for their receiver marking.
This isn't it
The engraving on the legitimate 1980 produced rifle I examined years ago bears zero resemblance to the engraving that I've examined on 1970 to 1975 dated L42A1s. I was befuddled by it too. That was the point of my comments. I've had more than 60 through here and I'm quite familiar with them.
This is my XL39E1
I have always assumed UX is RAF Uxbridge
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Simon,
I have your younger twin. I need to pull it out and take a better picture.
Thanks,
Brian
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this claims to be a 1979 l42a1
front pad looks like different size screw heads in it?
are we able to run the serial number AB7877 ?
The serial number is on the list, but there is so much wrong with that rifle at first glance.Quote:
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However, upon checking again, the list shows 12th July 1979 for this rifle.
Looks odd, but who knows. Maybe the front pad screw has been drilled and tapped to a larger size due to thread stripping?
The bolt looks like the serial number is engraved, so maybe a replacement. The D6E is missing, but it says it's a 1943 rifle, so possibly before standardised stamps?
There are several 1979 Rifles shown, this one is from batch no.75
I agree, the most likely reason for the front one of the front pad screws being oversize is because the threads got stripped. The other two screws look like 4BA's, although they are flat heads not 'correct' instrument heads.
It looks like it has been extensively but reasonably well refinished/rebuilt to me.......maybe another reason why it doesn't look quite 'right'.
I don't think the lack of a D6E matters on an AB prefixed 43 rifle. It appeared during the course of the year but not till rather later, so I don't think that is a worry.
That's Brilliant
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The rifles from Navy Arms are legit. It's on the list but as stated above, has been worked on extensively and must have had a badly stripped front pad screw. I'd have to say that the vast majority of L42A1 rifles that didn't wind up getting the gas axe have been worked on extensively. The majority finishing their careers at the sniper schools being worked hard through class after class.