Im posting a link to an ebay auction that has a bayo for sale. Its advertised as a 1942 dated bayo. Think its real? How do you spot a fake?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/150731794374...84.m1431.l2649
mdrim13
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Im posting a link to an ebay auction that has a bayo for sale. Its advertised as a 1942 dated bayo. Think its real? How do you spot a fake?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/150731794374...84.m1431.l2649
mdrim13
It is genuine.
Rough old bugger aint it Bill? Been through a couple of overhauls?
I could use the guts and grips for a full length 1942 I am restoring.
By the way, original question was how to spot a fake? The markings are very different on the fakes. They're available for viewing on Ebay and they come out of China I think. The scabbards are different and the whole thing doesn't compare to the originals. The finish doesn't look close to correct either. Like a poor blue and then stove paint over top.
Yeah, that one has been around the Horn more than once.
I have seen more than a few of those fakes on eBay lately. There are fakes out there that are quite good and are not as easy to spot. I think the one single thing that comes to mind is the edges of the stampings are sharp and a more fine font. The scabbards are plastic and shiney and the metal is thinner.
Moved to "Edged Weapons" forum where it will hopefully receive more views.
Bob
That would be a tragedy, that is a government shortened M1905, making it the new standard M1 bayonet in use from 1944 and for as long as the M1 Garand was on issue. Destroying a legitimate issue bayonet to "restore" another? Why?
EDIT!
Looking closer at the eBay link, it is possible that it is a fake, the scabbard does look like a straight plastic scabbard rather than the "cotton duck body impregnated with a thermosetting plastic" as stated in my link below. If this is the case, this would be a fair target for using parts in a restoration. They can probably be fitted to work on an original.
fakeing bayo info--
M1905
That is helpful but this is more detailed:
Bayo Points 13
and there is this:
Bayo Points 30
The last goes into the M1905 reproductions in some detail but it also applies to the reproduction M1 bayonets.
hummm!
Bayonet | Proxibid Auctions
wow what a bunch of responses. thanks to all. Is the general thought that it is real? Im also looking for a bayo to go with my 6-42 rifle. Would the long bayo be more correct?
mdrim13
If you want a bayonet that would have been what was in use when your rifle was new, it would be a long one. They first started making new bayonets again in 1942 and they were long but soon afterward they decided they wanted them short. The majority of the long 1942 bayonets were cut in arsenals. Yours could have had an earlier long bayonet too to be what might have been used on it when it was new - Of course a year or so after your M1 came out, any type bayonet would be 'proper' -
I have a 1942 that hasn't been cut -
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...01/19424-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...01/19421-1.jpg
Also an early long bayonet that was arsenal overhauled for WWII
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...01/19052-1.jpg
Personally, I like the bowie cut bayonets on M1's. I just like the way they look. I have two of them
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...1Medium6-1.jpg
I'm kinda new at this. So the bayonet in question is a cutdown 1905? Is the 1942 the date this was done? Also the UC and the UFH? Are those the makers and if so is one the original maker and the other the company that did the rework? Thanks
Harlan,
Are you wanting to part with your '42 long Bayo? If so let me know please.
mdrim13
How about this one while we are at it?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-Army...item3a6efd7360
Real and it's a cut down. Denix replicas are not cut down.