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Underwood M1 Carbine evaluation
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Wow, that one's sure been around. Well used to say the least.
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Originally Posted by
browningautorifle
Wow, that one's sure been around. Well used to say the least.
Around here that is one of the better condition ones.
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Is that one from RTI? - Bob
Attachment 116516
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USGI
Supposedly from a private collection.
From the feedback so far, is it safe to assume that a strip and blo the wood probably won’t hurt the value?
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What does that faint marking say on the left side of the receiver ring?
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Originally Posted by
jasonafair
is it safe to assume that a strip and BLO the wood probably won’t hurt the value?
If it was me, I'd strip bead blast and parkerize. The wood needs a complete degrease and rejuvenate too. Then it'll be right. Still will be a shooter.
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Is that a broken / chipped tooth on the trigger housings mag catch..... On the TH not the actual Magcatch ?
A good stock cleaning sure wouldn't hurt it. Best to coat the wood with RLO.
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Originally Posted by
jond41403
What does that faint marking say on the left side of the receiver ring?
JD,
Looks to be MEREX SAV., GA
Per Jim Mock:
Mertins Export (MEREX AG) office at Combat Military Ordnance Ltd. in Savannah, GA
estimate 1984-1987
3/4 down the page:
U.S. Carbine Imports & Exports
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Originally Posted by
painter777
Is that a broken / chipped tooth on the trigger housings mag catch..... On the TH not the actual Magcatch ?
A good stock cleaning sure wouldn't hurt it. Best to coat the wood with RLO.
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JD,
Looks to be
MEREX SAV., GA
Per Jim Mock:
Mertins Export (MEREX AG) office at Combat Military Ordnance Ltd. in Savannah, GA
estimate 1984-1987
3/4 down the page:
U.S. Carbine Imports & Exports
Thank you for the Merex id. I’d never had made that out. When I get home I can take some more pictures of the mag catch.
I’m hoping a good scrubbing will help.
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@ jasonafair,
Are there any Rivets in the back of your hand guard?
Also one picture looks like a Hole inside the trigger loop on the forward side. May just be the picture... but it sure looks like one. If it 'Is' a hole, I have never seen this before :dunno:
See this one:
https://www.milsurps.com/attachment....9&d=1618238403
Add that I'm wrong about a Chip on your Trigger Housing tooth.
Here's yours, compare it to the one I attached below it. Forget about the Peened punch marks on the 2nd picture
https://www.milsurps.com/attachment....1&d=1618239298
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I would have sworn I responded last night. Maybe the forum really doesn't like smart phones.
Yes, that's a hole. The hand guard looks like nails not rivets. I hope to have it cleaned and reassembled soon. Even with it's flaws, I should be able to at least get what I paid for if it I let it go.
Any advice/opinions on what could use work besides the furniture?
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Yep, those are nails and a piece of sheet steel on the handguard.
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I'd get a repro folding stock and make it a truck gun (if I lived in a (still) free state)
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That's it Bob. Each one dragged behind Charlie and his camel a required 20 miles before issue in Ethiopia.
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Looks like the RTI's
But would have their electro penciled import marking.
This hand guard must have been home made, having no holes thru the top...... or something made from a Commercial?
I'm curious Why the hole inside the Trigger loop?
Maybe a Magcatch to Safety Spring Plunger locked up?
Or a Plunger tip pulled off?
Then maybe drilled thru the front hole to remove ?
Remember the hand guard I pulled from a bulk box of them. It was home made by some one-
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC08666-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC08667-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC08663-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC08670-1.jpg
:dunno:
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If it is a Merex import, would they have been bringing them in from Ethiopia in the 80-90's? I was just going to do a field strip but think I'll go ahead and break down the trigger assembly to see what else is there. If it is a home made hand guard, anybody have an Underwood one laying around for a good price? Or even better maybe an entire Underwood stock. Judging by the butt plate this isn't an Underwood stock. Please correct me if am incorrect. I think Numrich has used GI hand guards for $25 that I'll get as last resort gamble for condition/company.
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jasonafair
anybody have an Underwood one laying around for a good price? Or even better maybe an entire Underwood stock.
Why not place a WTB ad here in the forum provided and see. These guys have everything.
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jasonafair
If it is a Merex import, would they have been bringing them in from Ethiopia in the 80-90's?
No it's not a RTI from the recent imports from Ethee ooo p ahh.
I've been looking to see where Merex brought them in from, but haven't found it yet.
Your stock appears to be what many call a M2 Potbelly. It has the Selector cut for the Happy lever on the left side.
If no letter marking in the left slingwell, you may find SA stamped on the top edge of the front barrel channel nose on the left side / front.
If there is a (SA) it would be a post WWII stock made by Springfield Armory.
Your hand guard wasn't made by any Military IMO. Most all, including those made in SE Asia had the Rivet holes. But stranger things have been seen.
When you tear the trigger housing apart look behind your removed Mag catch to see if the hole has been enlarged (Drilled)
I'm still curious about the hole in the trigger loop....... Never seen that before.
You can search Ebay and GB for stocks and hand guards....... be cautious of Faked Crossed Cannon Stamps.
While looking I just came across a home made HG with NO rivets and NO rear metal tab.
Appears home made:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...4/sl1600-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...4/sl1600-2.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...4/sl1600-3.jpg
M1 Carbine upper hand guard raw unfinished | eBay
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These guys still have a few handguards left, but the prices are rising. Figure on paying an extra $10 for shipping, but you'll receive a genuine item. You'll need to call them to see if they have what you want. I've got good deals on eBay, too - prices have gone up a bunch since then!
https://whatacountry.com/m1carbinehandguard.aspx
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Man, I wouldn't change a thing on that gun. I even leave the rivet in place in the band. It is a thing of beauty in its own way. New slide, old this, new that, anything to keep it running. I'll bet it shoots lights out too. Clean up and oil the stock and shoot it. It deserves to live not be a so-so correction.
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Here are a few more of the trigger housing. I'm glad I broke it down further, that thing was filthy! Debating on puttin the spring back in a trying to fire it. It functioned seemingly normally before the tear down. Who knows...
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I'd suggest new springs at least.
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Originally Posted by
painter777
I'm curious Why the hole inside the Trigger loop?
Maybe a Magcatch to Safety Spring Plunger locked up?
Or a Plunger tip pulled off?
Then maybe drilled thru the front hole to remove ?
This is the only answer I can come up with.
Unless it was an attempt at adding a Lube / Oil hole like we see on later and rebuild Trigger housings.... On the left side.
Thx for sharing it,
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Cleaned up a little
Here's a few more after some cleaning, reassembly and test fire. Yes, the velcro straps are holding the hand guard on...trying to decide on getting an early stock set or just the hand guard for now. With that exception, every part is either Underwood or NPM so I think that's a good thing and all look the same wear. Accuracy is pretty good. Looking around the velcro still hit center mass with a fairly good group at 50 yards.
