Just a quick one for the old CSP forumers on site. Apart from the one obvious highly regarded and literate subscriber, did we leave anyone of note behind on the old contaminated site?
Kind thoughts to all over this Happy Easter weekend
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Just a quick one for the old CSP forumers on site. Apart from the one obvious highly regarded and literate subscriber, did we leave anyone of note behind on the old contaminated site?
Kind thoughts to all over this Happy Easter weekend
Shhhh, they might hear you!
Nice side picture E in Ca! That's one bit of machinery that I NEVER tire of shooting. Sheer poetry in motion.........., the magnificent Bren
If you are going to make left handed remarks about my friend, I'm going to have to ask---Why do you want to start a fight?
Hmmmmmmm?
-----krinko
Holy smoke Krinko, and I thought that my Bren was hard on the wallet. With a toy like that it woudn't take long to blow a whole pay check! Or do you reload ;)
A) the matter never even entered my head Krinko and
b) what exactly IS the thumbnail? Make, Calibre, Origin etc
c) Is that you and your Bren E in Ca? Origin and Mark please? Not clear from photo.
I'm guessing but it looks to be a WWII vintage 20mm anti-aircraft Bofors (or is it Orlekin ???). How far wrong am I?
You mean N!@#%*B ?
Cary:)
Yes, that is my happy face behind the Bren. The Bren was mine in as much it was mine to cherish and care for, to feed, to clean, to talk sweetly to whenever I had a stoppage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
Pic was taken one spring morning at a WWII reenactment. What you cant see in the photo is the blood on my face. We got ambushed by Jerry as we came down a road ack-ack. So some ran left, some ran right. Me, I dove straight into the ditch at the side of the road cradling the Bren in front of me. That is one big frikin mag sticking up from the Bren. Mag and my nose met and I saw stars. Happy to report that the Bren suffered no damage whatsoever and the blood cleaned off it with a wet rag.
The Bren is an early Inglis Mk.I with the dovetail on the left side for the indirect fire sight and is the property of the Museum of Applied Military History here in Ontario. Bren is 100%, select fire with a blank fire kit installed. We did our battle scheme that weekend on CF Base Borden training grounds which is of course a certified range for full auto. Woohoo!
A mag doesnt last very long when things get exciting, so I had mags ready in my pouches, in my small pack, down the back of my pants :eek: the rest of the chaps in the section had mags shoved in their pockets and down the front of their battledress ready to pass over to me. All to feed the Bren.
I have put ball rounds through it at a museum machine gun shoot and it is indeed a pleasure to shoot. The delay in lock time with an open bolt takes a bit of getting adjusted to, but I was suprised just how accurate it was using repetition. Fig 11 targets stood no chance.
I own this one.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...04/bren1-1.jpg
Also a Mk.I made by Inglis (common as muck over here :p). An on going project. Mostly complete now with all JI marked parts.
In WWII they made them at the John Inglis washing machine factory on Brown's Line in Toronto, which is five minutes from the old Long Branch plant. I believe that they also made Browning Hi Power pistols.
Hello folks .... :)
Just thought it might be a good idea to head off this thread before it started to drift toward an electronic lynching ... :lol:
We're supposed to learn from history, so please let's leave the the old negative patterns on the old board and start new here with some fresh and positive relationships. It's a great time to shake hands and start over. ;)
Let's enjoy the hobby and each other, as well as try to remember that what we post to each other on the Internet, is often different than what we would say to the same person face to face, because it's easy to hide anonymously behind our keyboards.
The moderators here have a low patience threshold for inappropriate and immature behavior, watching folks beat on each other for sport. :lol:
So, we're asking everyone to please re-read the Welcome .... Please Read First! (click here) introductory post again carefully, particularly the part that relates to behavior and posting.
If any one is really upset about a post and feel it's inappropriate to the rule set established by the Culvers, then please click on the small https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ons/report.gif (triangle) you see in the bottom left corner of any post, which will permit you to report the post to our moderation team for action. :slap:
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Thanks for listening and cooperating..... :thup:
E in Ca, Back to Brens..... According to our Info here, if yours is from number M-0001 to approx M-2329, then its a rare (certainly in Bren collecting circles), original full Mk1. (1940 to 41 changeover between M-1500 and M-1700 approx). Then there is an intermediate period from M-2329 to M-42xx where the guns slowly morph from Mk1 to Mk1M. From then on, Inglis Brens were Mk1M pattern right up to 6T9999. Then from 7T0001/May(?) '43, they were Mk2's
What's yours? At Warminster we have a gun used for trials, M-1107
I have made the transition to the new forum Peter.
I think the Milsurp group have made the transition fairly easy for us all.
As the moderator made mention, off topic or threads that are taken over by other issues or stories seem to be "not so -tolerated" and that is a good thing.
As long as everyone has fun.
I do miss the old comraderie of the CSP forum but have to admit, I do not at all miss the combative posts it is much user friendly here.
So to stay on topic and answer your question--anyone left behind --nope not me Peter.
I just have nothing to say of late and really nothing of any importance
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...39789124-1.jpg.
Cheers
Terry in Victoria
Hi Terry. It's a fine balance between what constitutes '....off topic' really. This thread is leaning slightly that way with the Bren Gun. But I suppose the hallowed name BREN is from the same Enfield stable..........
Talking of Brens; I understood the reason you could only put 28 Rds in a Bren magazine was because of a pattern room cock up when converting the drawings from 7.92 to *·303.
(Is this true?)
If this was the case, why was it so difficult to get 30 rds in the magazine of an L4A4 LMG, when you would have expected the lessons of old to be remembered?
No pressure Peter!
Wow ... :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Strangely Brown
Thanks for the pic..... :thup:
That brought flashbacks.... I qualified on that critter in the early 60's. It was our primary recce vehicle. I loved the fact you could reverse and go backwards as fast as you could forwards, which was often needed when you were no longer doing the "sneek and peek" and the bad guys spotted you ... :lol:
Regards,
Badger
00EC98 was the recce vehicle for 143 "Tombs Troop" Fld Bty RA in 1972; I dare say it's now a target on an impact area somewhere these days.
I do recall the bloody thing leaked oil in the compartment, OMD110 if memory serves me correct!
You're right...OMD 110 still the same today. Oil Mineral Detergent 110. It was MADE to a) smell and b) leak
I'll find out about the 7.62 Bren mags but I think you could get 30 rounds in quite comfortably BUT you were only taught 28 by gthe instructors who carried it over from their .303" Bren days. Leave it with me.
Talk about going off topic...., now we've gone from Brens to Ferrets!
I don't think the CSP Admin was concerned about the drift into brens and ferrets as discussion content. I stand to be corrected, but I think it was the drift towards discussing old electronic adversaries from other lives .. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
By the way, I loved that ferret. I could eat, sleep, shave etc. in it, but I never got used to sliding around in the darn oil scum on the floor... :lol:
Regards,
Badger
Sorry CSP ADMIN. I will play nice.:)
[QUOTE=Strangely Brown;38707]Talking of Brens; I understood the reason you could only put 28 Rds in a Bren magazine was because of a pattern room cock up when converting the drawings from 7.92 to *·303.
(Is this true?) QUOTE]
.303 UK magazines are inch correct (nigh on) copied from metric Czech CZ 1935 drawings for the .303 (30 rnd) mag.
CZ drawing No Z14981
Early SAT pams for the Bren say to load 30 rnds but without looking for ammendmends this was reduced to 28 rounds in 42 onward editions.(maybe earlier without looking)
Czech made 30 rnd .303 magazines are exremely well made and did not suffer the need for an anti binding spring due to joint weld finishing like Commonwealth manufactured magazines made under more constrained conditions.
The .303, 28 rnd mag limit may be more due to manufacture quality rather than design drawing error.
ATB Kevin
funny, I can get 30 rounds in my mags. I believe the reason to put a couple fewer in was to ensure a smoother feed.
Ferrets, Got do drive one from the customs impound to a friends business when he imported several.
Its amazing how polite people were when I put my turn signals on, everyone made room so I could get into the turn lane.
Oh by the way, we found one of the petrol tins strapped to the back had WHERMACHT markings. I guess a jerrry can is a jerry can.
Not that 30 rnds wouldn't fit,but only 28 rnds should used.
My memory is that we could only just get 29 Rds in the mag, I suppose it is possible that the mag was f***ed.
My father carried a Bren during his service time, early fifties. He said the Bren gunner was everybody's mate unless you were marching to the range! When talking on the subject, he always comments on it's accuracy and reliability. He also says you never put a full magazine into a Bren- "always flick the first two out. They never jammed with 28 on top, but did sometimes with 30- Murphy says it would happen when you least need it, so never tempt fate."
Here's a rack of Brens I got to play with for a few minutes years ago, and another more recent
Jeeeeeees........... Mk1,s 2, a Mk3 and a few L4's! Wrong barrel on the second pic Son. Should be a stainless double taper flash eliminator Mk1 or 1*.
That's more that we've got left in the Army here!
That rack is in a storage/ workshop area generally off limits to the public at the Lithgow Small Arms Museum. The pictures were a few years ago, I have more, but not of Brens. The "guide" told us there were examples of every Bren manufacturer and calibre-
Just to touch on the "on topic" side- get a load of these! (first pic)
Second pic is wandering off again- apology for the focus.
Son I have a technical question about your photos, the odd and strangely pale distorted faces in your photos, were they caused by any of the following:
A. Drinking Fosters Beer and eating Vegemite.
B. Overexposure to cordite powder and the corresponding facial erosion.
C. You actually think you can hide from Gunboard members who have seen the untouched original photos.
D. The plastic surgery and botox injections didn’t work :yikes:
E. All of the above.
:rofl:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Edward Horton
In answer to your enquiry,
A. had nothing to do with it- I don't drink (probably because I don't look in the mirror) Vegemite was never conclusively proven to cause birth defects, and because Fosters Beer was only ever tested on Americans, we are still waiting on the resultant generation to grow up before anyone here actually tastes it. :madsmile:
B. Hmmm, a possibility..... :p
C. True, but not everyone remembers everything they ever read here on the internet.... :move eek:
D. The quote from the first plastic surgeon was over a hundred grand.... Then we found a bloke pioneering a new technique- using the plastic lid off an icecream bucket, a black marking pen and superglue. I'm bound by contract not to divulge anything more (it is an experimental procedure, and very secret) Total cost was $11.48 and I feel the results speak for themselves. :yikes:
Son you can wear any sort of mask you like if you take me on that sort of sortie to the back rooms. Promise to carry a towel. Those S & Ls still have the WOW factor. PL said about the BRENS. Will even wear white cotton gloves. :slap: