Anyone left behind...................

[Peter Laidler]

E in Ca, Back to Brens..... According to our Info here, if yours is from number M-0001 to approx M-2329, then its a rare (certainly in Bren collecting circles), original full Mk1. (1940 to 41 changeover between M-1500 and M-1700 approx). Then there is an intermediate period from M-2329 to M-42xx where the guns slowly morph from Mk1 to Mk1M. From then on, Inglis Brens were Mk1M pattern right up to 6T9999. Then from 7T0001/May(?) '43, they were Mk2's

What's yours? At Warminster we have a gun used for trials, M-1107

[terryinvictoria]

I have made the transition to the new forum Peter.
I think the Milsurp group have made the transition fairly easy for us all.

As the moderator made mention, off topic or threads that are taken over by other issues or stories seem to be "not so -tolerated" and that is a good thing.

As long as everyone has fun.
I do miss the old comraderie of the CSP forum but have to admit, I do not at all miss the combative posts it is much user friendly here.

So to stay on topic and answer your question--anyone left behind --nope not me Peter.

I just have nothing to say of late and really nothing of any importance

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Cheers
Terry in Victoria

[Peter Laidler]

Hi Terry. It's a fine balance between what constitutes '....off topic' really. This thread is leaning slightly that way with the Bren Gun. But I suppose the hallowed name BREN is from the same Enfield stable..........

[Strangely Brown]

Talking of Brens; I understood the reason you could only put 28 Rds in a Bren magazine was because of a pattern room cock up when converting the drawings from 7.92 to *·303.
(Is this true?)

If this was the case, why was it so difficult to get 30 rds in the magazine of an L4A4 LMG, when you would have expected the lessons of old to be remembered?

No pressure Peter!

[Badger]

Talking of Brens....

Wow ...

Thanks for the pic.....

That brought flashbacks.... I qualified on that critter in the early 60's. It was our primary recce vehicle. I loved the fact you could reverse and go backwards as fast as you could forwards, which was often needed when you were no longer doing the "sneek and peek" and the bad guys spotted you ...

Regards,
Badger

[Strangely Brown]

00EC98 was the recce vehicle for 143 "Tombs Troop" Fld Bty RA in 1972; I dare say it's now a target on an impact area somewhere these days.

I do recall the bloody thing leaked oil in the compartment, OMD110 if memory serves me correct!

[Peter Laidler]

You're right...OMD 110 still the same today. Oil Mineral Detergent 110. It was MADE to a) smell and b) leak

I'll find out about the 7.62 Bren mags but I think you could get 30 rounds in quite comfortably BUT you were only taught 28 by gthe instructors who carried it over from their .303" Bren days. Leave it with me.

Talk about going off topic...., now we've gone from Brens to Ferrets!

[Badger]

Talk about going off topic...., now we've gone from Brens to Ferrets!

I don't think the CSP Admin was concerned about the drift into brens and ferrets as discussion content. I stand to be corrected, but I think it was the drift towards discussing old electronic adversaries from other lives ..

By the way, I loved that ferret. I could eat, sleep, shave etc. in it, but I never got used to sliding around in the darn oil scum on the floor...

Regards,
Badger

[cary m2a]

Sorry CSP ADMIN. I will play nice.

[Kev G]

[QUOTE=Strangely Brown;38707]Talking of Brens; I understood the reason you could only put 28 Rds in a Bren magazine was because of a pattern room cock up when converting the drawings from 7.92 to *·303.
(Is this true?) QUOTE]

.303 UK magazines are inch correct (nigh on) copied from metric Czech CZ 1935 drawings for the .303 (30 rnd) mag.
CZ drawing No Z14981

Early SAT pams for the Bren say to load 30 rnds but without looking for ammendmends this was reduced to 28 rounds in 42 onward editions.(maybe earlier without looking)

Czech made 30 rnd .303 magazines are exremely well made and did not suffer the need for an anti binding spring due to joint weld finishing like Commonwealth manufactured magazines made under more constrained conditions.

The .303, 28 rnd mag limit may be more due to manufacture quality rather than design drawing error.

ATB Kevin