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    Fell off the wagon with a K-31 and Argentine Mauser

    I was in recovery from mil-surp addiction until I made the mistake of looking at the auctions. It is kinda like an alcoholic wandering into a bar just to see "what's going on". Big mistake.

    I fell off the wagon and ended up wining a late model K-31 and an Argentineicon Engineers carbine. In my defense, I've been looking for an '09 Argentine Engineer's carbine for some time. They are relatively rare and usually in pretty rough shape compared to many of the long rifles.

    The K-31? No excuses...I love the ones made in the late 50's, just before they ended production. It is nothing special, average condition, but a very late manufacture.

    Here is the Argentine Engineers carbine:





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    Calfed, Very nice! What is the barrel length? Salt Flat

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    I believe it is 21.5".

    I'll measure it when it arrives.

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    I thought the Calvery & Engineer Carbines were configured like this.
    I think I would fall off the wagon for a Argentineicon Mauser like that and the K-31 is milsurps crack.

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    Calfed, why in the world would you want to recover from milsurpitis? Beautiful Argie engineer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY View Post
    I thought the Calvery & Engineer Carbines were configured like this.
    I think I would fall off the wagon for a Argentineicon Mauser like that and the K-31 is milsurps crack.
    Thanks, HoH.

    I believe the configuration illustrated in your picture is the "Cavalry carbine". I have several '09 "Cavalry carbines".

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    My new one is referred to as an "Engineer's carbine" or "Mountain carbine".

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    Calfed, why in the world would you want to recover from milsurpitis? Beautiful Argie engineer!
    Thanks, Anzac.

    It is mainly my long-suffering wife who seeks a cure for my milsurpitis.

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    I am no expert so not being contrary. Just trying to educate myself. I thought the engineer and calvery were basicly the same with different sling arrangements? Calvery being side mounted and the engineer being in the standard location and one having a bayonet lug and the other not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY View Post
    I am no expert so not being contrary. Just trying to educate myself. I thought the engineer and calvery were basicly the same with different sling arrangements? Calvery being side mounted and the engineer being in the standard location and one having a bayonet lug and the other not?
    That is not my understanding.

    Per Ball's "Mauser Military rifles of the World" the "Mountain Carbine" (also known as the "Engineer's model") is in a standard carbine configuration stock and the "Cavalry carbine" has the full length "Mannlicher" style stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfed View Post
    That is not my understanding.

    Per Ball's "Mauser Military rifles of the World" the "Mountain Carbine" (also known as the "Engineer's model") is in a standard carbine configuration stock and the "Cavalry carbine" has the full length "Mannlicher" style stock.
    I am going to go with your understanding as you have better refrences than google. I have seen three different configurations of the rifle I posted. The picture I posted and another with an intermediate band with a bayonet lug and a side/swivel mounted sling attachment(1909 model?) and yet one more with the sling attachments on the bottom of the stock and forend.My example is odd in that it seems to have been converted to its current configuration.Now your renewed addiction has me adding another Mauser to my Christmas list.I hope it is as pretty as the pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY View Post
    I am going to go with your understanding as you have better refrences than google. I have seen three different configurations of the rifle I posted. The picture I posted and another with an intermediate band with a bayonet lug and a side/swivel mounted sling attachment(1909 model?) and yet one more with the sling attachments on the bottom of the stock and forend.My example is odd in that it seems to have been converted to its current configuration.Now your renewed addiction has me adding another Mauser to my Christmas list.I hope it is as pretty as the pictures.
    AFAIK, the 1891 Argentineicon (the one in the picture that you attached) has no "Mountain" or "Engineer's" carbine. Only the '09 Mauser came in that configuration.

    I've seen both of the '91 Mauser carbine versions that you described.

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