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    Wouldn't that be cool if he remembers filling out the tag?

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    Yes, rifle is legit, though with lots of replacement parts. Not sure about the 'RT'. The early rifles weren't TR stamped & whilst the side wall T was often added later on, IMHO it would be unusual to see the TR added. I wonder if that stamp was added by somebody as they thought it 'ought' to be there? Only 18 months ago at Bisley a friend showed me his early BSA 4T (1941 mfr). It was one that I had sold from my collection a few years ago, but it now sports 'M47/C' & 'TR' on the butt socket, &, IIRC a 'T' on the receiver.............none of which were present originally. I don't think there was any universal agreement to so mark rifles accepted for sniper rifle conversion that early (1941) in the war, which would explain why the 'TR' (or 'RT' in this case) are not usually there!

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    This came from an estate sale of the original owner ( same address as on shipping card shown) who had passed away. Everything in the case including the old newspapers looked like it had not been touched in years. May be he did do the stamping or may be the boys at Hunters Lodge did. But I doubt back then someone would have thought to do so. I about had a heart attack when I started looking through it and found all the tags and things. I've never had a gun with documents. I'm very fortunate that he didn't throw away those back then when he bought it for $86

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurn View Post
    The butt-stock and rear hand-guard were obvious replacements.
    While the serial number on the forend matches the other numbers, the forend and front hand-guard look too new (nearly pristine) to have been original to 1941 (if the front of this gun went through a war, it must have been in a chest the whole time -- there doesn't seem to be enough war-wear). Other members have seen far more snipers than I, but those I've seen from that period tended to be all walnut, not beech and walnut.

    BTW, nice find -- congratulations. Luck seems to be on your side. All those miscellaneous paper artifacts -- the whole grouping of items -- tells a wonderful story.
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    Few more pics. The scope knobs turn nice and work as they should and the optics are perfect.














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    Forgot to show the sling that was in the bottom of the case. Could find no markings what so ever.




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    Early WW1 sling I expect. There'll be markings at the frog usually, the short piece should have some. Just a matter of a bit of moisture and light to see them. There are unmarked versions...but not so many.
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    Great find and great pics!

    In the bottom of my transit case I too found a receipt from hunters lodge. Price back then was $79. Same packing tags too on the scope can. Scope and rifle do not match.

    I bought mine from the original owner back in 1993. He remembers ordering it from Hunters lodge. He told me me he payed extra to have a "special select" rifle and scope. Apparently, they would hand pick rifles and scopes, regardless if they matched or not. My transit case is matched to my rifle, but scope and can are mismatched.

    Thanks for posting!

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