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The bayonet was royalty free, but.........! FN got their pound of flesh when it came to paying for our changes in design of the flash eliminator that was to accommodate our bayonet over the the two (?) variables* of bayonets that came with their design
(* feel free to correct this anyone from the bayonet community)
Further to thread 9 above, this mixed fleet saga also gave Oz and NZ a bit of a headache because when batches of Oz bayonets went down to the big Field workshops or came up from Ordnance, they came back modified to the UK L1A3 spec - with recessed pommels and short catches! Both of which were alien and not recognised in Oz. The Australian EMEI was eventually altered by WO1 'Jock' Cunningham (another nice bloke whom we called 'sir') after it was all explained to him and he got a UK EMER from the REME/RAEME/RNZEME/FMEME inspectorate in Singapore, to the effect that where these UK type L1A3 bayonets were encountered in service (due to mixed repair/Ord etc etc) in Australia, they were to be treated as standard bayonets and where a new catch was required it could be replaced with a suitably modified (shortened) Aust made catch. So if anyone's reading that V-150 EMEI in Australia or NZ, that's the reason and he's to blame.
Don't even start to ask me how I remember all of this crxx after all this time. Sad or what.......
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Don't even start to ask me how I remember all of this crxx after all this time. Sad or what.......
Its all fascinating stuff to us anoraks Peter!
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Originally Posted by
mrclark303
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I have also seen one example with a late 1986 manufacture Parker Hale barrel and gas block assembly, though this might possibly have been a post service civvy replacement for the original, as Kevin said he hadn't seen any others so re-fitted and that example had been Birmingham proofed.
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Have seen a 1959 BSA fitted with a (1989? dated) PH gas block & barrel, PH marked charging slide and cocking handle ( the PH was molded into the cocking handle, and deeply marked into the slide).
TMH was "force matched" to the upper and the original serial # was "barred out" with an engraved bar.
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Originally Posted by
Bruce_in_Oz
Brit. black plastic furniture will fit straight onto an Oz L1A1 and was issued in limited quantities during the "dying days" of the L1A1 in Oz service. Probably drop straight onto a C1
Yes, the furniture completely interchanged.
Originally Posted by
mrclark303
Regarding fal/inch pattern interchangeably, bolt an carrier, top cover and complete TMH will all fit without issue.
Our short body cover won't fit the rifles that don't have the cutouts at the back top of the receiver. Perhaps it's just the IAI rifles that didn't have that...I forget now.
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Off subject a bit but I always wondered why our rifles had those recesses at the top rear of the body (BAR, thread14). The little knibs on the cover that fitted into those recesses/cut-outs were always snapping off due to fatigue fracturing. Eventually we just filed the sheared edges clean and carried on using them. Only much later did I realise that the Canadian rifles used a short cover and these knibs and recesses kept the cover to the rear.
Were the short covers used continuously from start to finish BAR?
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Originally Posted by
Lee Enfield
Have seen a 1959 BSA fitted with a (1989? dated) PH gas block & barrel, PH marked charging slide and cocking handle ( the PH was molded into the cocking handle, and deeply marked into the slide).
TMH was "force matched" to the upper and the original serial # was "barred out" with an engraved bar.
Thanks for that info, yep see a few "end of the line" British rebuilds using PH manufactured parts, (ex Enfield plant I think) and likewise, with replaced/renumbered salvaged TMH's.
I still have a few 1989 PH cocking handle assemblies in my spares box, NOS, always worth having spare!
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the short covers used continuously
Yes, without the fold of steel they slid forward of course. Yours wouldn't meed them except to keep from cutting one's self on the corner or folding it during mishandling. We used them throughout.
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Don't want to bump the thread as it is interesting, but the mention of bayonets, if anyone is looking for one of the trial bayonets marked X2E1, send me a PM, not looking for a kings ransom so don't be shy.
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Thanks for the pics Kevin, they really illustrate the machining difference's with the three rifles.
I would think you must have one of the only C1's in NZ mate! Very nice..
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