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Why not melt a pot of Vaseline to dip the pistol in rather than baking the pistol? Better yet, why not just use a good preservative oil? The Vaseline plus the baking must be hell on wooden grips.
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Originally Posted by
Johnny Peppers
Why not melt a pot of Vaseline to dip the pistol in rather than baking the pistol? Better yet, why not just use a good preservative oil? The Vaseline plus the baking must be hell on wooden grips.
It's inexpensive, non toxic, available everywhere and works very well. No drips, no over spray and cleans up easily. Baking is an option for long term storage, but not required. I suggested removing the grips, read the post. The guy that recommended to me has been using it since WWII. I'd describe it as working much like a heavy grease or cosmoline
without some of the problems associated with them.
I'd suggest not dipping the gun in a pot of vasoline or a pot of "good preservative oil". Why so negative? Give it a try first before you judge, you might like it!
Last edited by bczandm; 08-16-2009 at 10:50 AM.
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Originally Posted by
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It's inexpensive, non toxic, available everywhere and works very well. No drips, no over spray and cleans up easily. Baking is an option for long term storage, but not required. I suggested removing the grips, read the post. The guy that recommended to me has been using it since WWII. I'd describe it as working much like a heavy grease or
cosmoline without some of the problems associated with them.
I'd suggest not dipping the gun in a pot of vasoline or a pot of "good preservative oil". Why so negative? Give it a try first before you judge, you might like it!
When it comes to protecting valuable firearms, finding something inexpensive is just not a concern. Wiping a pistol down with a preservative oil doesn't create any over spray nor any drips. Wiping something down with Vaseline certainly is messy.
I would never bake a firearm of any kind in an oven. Just because someone else has used it since WWII doesn't mean that it is superior to just a wipe down with an oily rag.
If the Vaseline is so good, what is wrong with dipping a pistol in a pot of it, as it is very inexpensive. Also I didn't suggest dipping a pistol in a pot of preservative oil.
If you want a good preservative for long term storage, try LPS 3. It contains wax in suspension, and when wiped on the wax hardens. It can easily be removed with any gun oil when the pistol is taken out of storage.
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LPS 3 is good stuff, but the mfg only suggests it for storage up to 2 years indoors. Their words, not mine.
FWIW, price was only one consideration in my last post.
Bottom line is that it works for some of us. My buddy has used it for 1000's of Lugers for 65 years or so. It works for him and it works well for me.
There's more than one way to skin a cat, this one works for me for longer term storage. I also use LPS 3, Triflow, WD40 and others. There are many other good solutions as well.
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Johnny,
I have been using those boxes as well with the double side paper he offers. Does the VPI paper offer any benefit over what I am using?
Regards,
Pat
Originally Posted by
Johnny Peppers
If you are worried about shooting a collectible pistol, the finish will wear off before you begin to have mechanical problems because you didn't change a recoil spring. John Browning designed the pistol to function with a 15/16# recoil spring, so anything any stronger is just for your own amusement.
As far as storage, I have used the Robert's Arms Specialties boxes for years with a sheet of Brownell's VPI paper, and have never had any issues. The pistol is always wiped down with a thin coat of light preservative oil just to remove fingerprints.
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Originally Posted by
pdawg1911
Johnny,
I have been using those boxes as well with the double side paper he offers. Does the VPI paper offer any benefit over what I am using?
Regards,
Pat
I still have some pistols wrapped in the double sided paper (kraft paper that is plastic coated on one side) from the first boxes I bought from Bob more than a few years ago. I have never had a problem using either paper, and I live where it is very humid. I often wondered how the plastic would react in case of a fire even though the boxed pistols are in a gun safe.
The VPI paper was not expensive, and just gives a bit of extra protection.
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Originally Posted by
bczandm
LPS 3 is good stuff, but the mfg only suggests it for storage up to 2 years indoors. Their words, not mine.
Just out of curiosity, how long does Vaseline suggest it lasts for storage?
As an added note, the 1911A1 military pistols were dipped in a preservative oil, allowed to drain for 5 minutes, and wrapped in oil proof paper per military specifications when shipped new from the manufacturer.
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Originally Posted by
Johnny Peppers
Just out of curiosity, how long does Vaseline suggest it lasts for storage?
As an added note, the 1911A1 military pistols were dipped in a preservative oil, allowed to drain for 5 minutes, and wrapped in oil proof paper per military specifications when shipped new from the manufacturer.
Ok, OK, OK. You are right. The guys that used it for 65 years are wrong.
Remember Johnny..."A mind only works when it is open". Don't fear trying something new.
Why are you so eager to bash my post? I just don't get it. You have not even tried it and you are shooting it down, why?
Best Regards,
Bob
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Originally Posted by
bczandm
Ok, OK, OK. You are right. The guys that used it for 65 years are wrong.
Remember Johnny..."A mind only works when it is open". Don't fear trying something new.
Why are you so eager to bash my post? I just don't get it. You have not even tried it and you are shooting it down, why?
Best Regards,
Bob
I didn't say anyone was wrong. Since you informed me that LPS was advertised as being good for only 2 years, I only ask how long Vaseline was advertised as lasting. Isn't that a fair question?
I have a very open mind, but I won't be baking any Vaseline coated pistols in the oven. Does that make me closed minded? I wouldn't put up with the mess of breaking pistols down and removing grips just to use a messy coating when other things work as well or better without cooking the pistol.
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Originally Posted by
Johnny Peppers
I didn't say anyone was wrong. Since you informed me that LPS was advertised as being good for only 2 years, I only ask how long Vaseline was advertised as lasting. Isn't that a fair question?
I have a very open mind, but I won't be baking any Vaseline coated pistols in the oven. Does that make me closed minded? I wouldn't put up with the mess of breaking pistols down and removing grips just to use a messy coating when other things work as well or better without cooking the pistol.
As you already know from the other thread you were involved with this spring, cosmoline and vasoline are chemically very close. Seems you didn't like the suggestion then either! Cosmoline has been used by our military and countless others. I think it's been proven.
I think we can both agree that it time for this thread to die. I'll give ya the last word here on the board, 
and feel free to PM me if you have other questions or comments. I do appreciate the comments and will dust off the can of LPS 3.
BTW, I do appreciate your wealth of knowledge on the 1911's and your comments, I've learned quite a bit lurking here over the years.
While we might disagree on the vasoline issue, we can at least agree on one of the best pistols ever made.
Bob
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