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    Luger Pictures

    Ok, attached are pictures of the luger I am trying to get an assesement. Everything mathces including both mags. The holster is dated 1918 but does not have the s/n of the luger on it.
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    mark1, that is a fine piece that you have. Erfurt made Lugers are good ones. Here you have to pay for an piece like this between € 900 up to €1200. Sometimes much more. I`ve seen a Luger like yours for € 1480. Though i`ve seen Artillery Lugers in excellent condition been sold for € 1200. That depends on maker, year of manufacturing, condition and what the buyer want to pay for. The prices in $ are between $ 1200 and $ 1700 , as i said here in Germanyicon. Hope you would`nt sell it. I know some guys here they would give their wifes away for this one. Please dont ask if the womens are beautys. :-)

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    I believe the very nice piece you have there has had it's barrel changed out sometime in the distant past.
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    Observe the "flattened" area on top of the upper receiver (just behind the barrel/receiver interface).
    That flatened area was machined there to accomodate the original rear sight that was used with the so-called "Artillery" model, which had a longer barrel. --Jim

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    If the barrel was changed, it would have been done by the Germans at some point in time prior to 1944. This is my late father in law pistol that he came back with after WWII.

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    The sight clearance cut in Erfurt receivers is correct. In 1914 Erfurt made both 4" and 8" pistols. The 8" LP.08, or "Artillery Model" had a sight clearance cut in the front of the receiver. Erfurt made no pistols in 1915, but with the resumption of production in 1916 the sight clearance cut was ordered for all pistols so that the receivers could be used for both 4" and 8" pistols.
    The part that I question on the pistol are the magazines. In 1910 the Germanicon military put out an order for the marking of proof and acceptance marks on the P.08, and Erfurt strictly adhered to the order while DWM did not, which called for the marking of virtually every part of the pistol. The early magazines had two acceptance marks, one being at the top edge of the wood base and the other at the bottom edge of the wood base. In 1914 the order was revised and the magazines only had the acceptance mark on the top edge of the magazine base. The magazines show do not have an Erfurt acceptance mark. The pistols originally came with two magazines serial numbered to the pistol. One magazine had the serial number and acceptance mark, while the second magazine had the serial number and acceptance mark, and a plus sign ( + ) to indicate the spare magazine. The magazines shown both have a plus sign.
    There are some discolorations on the side plate as well as the frame area behind the side plate. It would take a hands on examination to determine the condition of the finish. Without saying whether the magazines are correct or not, if everything was correct the value could be anywhere from $3500 to $4500.

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    Thank you for the help Johnny. My wife and I are trying to figure out the estate. He has other item that he returned from Germanyicon with, but the Luger is what we wanted to get an assesement on.
    Thanks again

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